View Full Version : First day on Valos today
My AB.1 Black's came in today (thanks RW)
I was skeptical they would fit, since im an 8.5 in xsjado and these are 8's, but they fit like a glove right out of the box.
My last 2 pairs of skates were Xsjados and just wanted to try something new.
After a session today i can say that i have never felt more confident in a pair of skates. So much support, perfect flex, and just feel solid. Xsjados are amazing, dont get me wrong, but i started getting frustrated with the fact that they felt floppy (even when brand new).
Unreal fast souls (only skated park) and royale was perfect. Not to mention, torques feel sooo good. Also, with the raised heel, i was able to pump so much better.
Idk, just thought id share my first impression coming from Xsjado to Valo. Still love Xsjados, no complaints (ok a few), but i dont think i will skate anything other than Valo for the rest of the time i skate
mike99mccarthy
04.04.2009, 00:45
who would of thought that the skate boot from 1981 would skate better than any made since lol
Xsjados are amazing, dont get me wrong, but i started getting frustrated with the fact that they felt floppy (even when brand new).
THANK YOU! I've been saying this since I tried those turds (Xsjados) but everybody looks at me like I am crazy and tells me they're super supportive, which is pure bullshit.
*ROYALwithCHEESE*
04.04.2009, 09:05
who would of thought that the skate boot from 1981 would skate better than any made since lol
81? Plz explain 81?
Harry Maynard
04.04.2009, 10:29
Xsjados are amazing, dont get me wrong, but i started getting frustrated with the fact that they felt floppy (even when brand new).
THANK YOU! I've been saying this since I tried those turds (Xsjados) but everybody looks at me like I am crazy and tells me they're super supportive, which is pure bullshit.Xsjados are the worst. Look like shit too.
p01sOn IV
04.04.2009, 10:30
Same boot as roces m12's which i regret never buying or trying once. i hated my valos after a while though. probably 'cause i skated pvc every day and it melted the souls to shit.
Alex Coe
04.04.2009, 10:32
After a session today i can say that i have never felt more confident in a pair of skates.
So...what has felt more confident to skate in?
UnknownPleasures
04.04.2009, 10:37
After a session today i can say that i have never felt more confident in a pair of skates.
So...what has felt more confident to skate in?
Timbs.
mike99mccarthy
04.04.2009, 10:38
who would of thought that the skate boot from 1981 would skate better than any made since lol
81? Plz explain 81?
roces old majestic 12 boot lies beneath the skin of valos. roces started in around 1981 or so.
rollerblade and roces have been whoring out that boot ever since. and even tho there has been 100's of "revolutionary" skates to come out since(remz,xsjado,deshi), in 2009 the hottest skate is the valo broskow using that boot with a bunch of shit mounted on it
blackgold
04.04.2009, 10:39
After a session today i can say that i have never felt more confident in a pair of skates.
So...what has felt more confident to skate in?
Timbos.
http://clutchmagonline.com/wp-content/uploads/biggie-smalls1.jpg
Xsjados are amazing, dont get me wrong, but i started getting frustrated with the fact that they felt floppy (even when brand new).
THANK YOU! I've been saying this since I tried those turds (Xsjados) but everybody looks at me like I am crazy and tells me they're super supportive, which is pure bullshit.
nu uh, They feel nice to me. (tho I have huge ass feet)
My only beef with Xsjado is the wear and tear. They can't take a lot of punishment (IMO) And every pair I've skated, I've cracked the shell within 3 or 4 months of skating. And it doesn't just 'break' like most skates. Its a little bit at a time. Like they want to see you eat shit as much as possible before they say "fuck you" and die.
Love the Concept, but I'd change a couple things about them to make em stronger if I could.
valo is fsking bad ass though, you can't really go wrong with them 8)
blackgold
04.04.2009, 10:48
I always felt like I could never get Xsjados tight enough, they fit my feet well enough but it seemed like the ankle was just going to flop over no matter how tight I pulled the little straps.
Pimp Juice
04.04.2009, 11:27
I like them both I wont ride anyng but valo or xsjado
Alex Coe
04.04.2009, 11:39
I like them both I wont ride anyng but valo or xsjado
Let's not say things we can't take back. What about Carbons. :shock:
Pimp Juice
04.04.2009, 11:41
never liked deshis and ter seeing thein person, I do not want...
i had the same impressions as you the first time i used my ab1, really great skates
the fiend
04.04.2009, 16:08
after reading this post i really want to try valos now. i've been riding the same pair of USD Feinbergs for the past 7 years.
after reading this post i really want to try valos now. i've been riding the same pair of USD Feinbergs for the past 7 years.
do it, get it, u will love it.
I always felt like I could never get Xsjados tight enough, they fit my feet well enough but it seemed like the ankle was just going to flop over no matter how tight I pulled the little straps.
problem i had with xsjado is similar, either too loose and floppy, or tight enough but dug in at random places.
just to throw this into the mix, i also dislike the new carbons, razor gen shalls ftw.
i got the confidence thing too when i first started skating them
props on getting the black ones! blue ones is whack
i got the confidence thing too when i first started skating them
props on getting the black ones! blue ones is whack
NIGGA FUCK YOU THEY BOTH HELLA TIGHT
Xsjados are amazing, dont get me wrong, but i started getting frustrated with the fact that they felt floppy (even when brand new).
Thats exactly the opposite that happened to me. My Valos felt floppy and heavy and I hated the raise heel
UPDATE
Day 2, Davenport Skatepark session, bowls, hips, ledges
So after day 1, which consisted of a mini session with tons of little kids, i took to an outdoor park, concrete, with tons of ledges, hips, pools, whatever, just a great flow park. Started messin' around, souls and whatnot on rusty ledges (angle iron rusted due to bikers), they usually require tons of wax. yet my first soul i laced the entire 20 feet. Kinda scared me to be honest, haha.
with Xsjados, i could back torque and royale anything due to the large royale plates, yet never felt in control. I could always get them locked but only hold a farv for like 10 feet max. I tried it in my Valos today, laced the entire ledge 3rd try, along with most of the ledge back torqued. The control on these grooves is unreal, not too fast, not too slow, just perfect sliding for max control.
Also today i noticed how well the weight was distributed in these skates. I realized, finally, that the reason xsjados feel so floppy is because they are bottom heavy. I could never put my finger on that fact until trying these valos. The weights is perfectly balanced, making the skate in a complete setup feel quite light, with no real points of heaviness. Sure, carbons will be lighter, but o well, these are a good weight IMO.
I am liking the liners too, however, after my 3 hour session, my ankles are a little raw, but my socks were damn thin, so o well.
These skates have given me a new found love for skating. i could care less about going big or anything, cuz with these, even the simplest soul feels perfect
*ROYALwithCHEESE*
04.04.2009, 23:18
who would of thought that the skate boot from 1981 would skate better than any made since lol
81? Plz explain 81?
roces old majestic 12 boot lies beneath the skin of valos. roces started in around 1981 or so.
rollerblade and roces have been whoring out that boot ever since. and even tho there has been 100's of "revolutionary" skates to come out since(remz,xsjado,deshi), in 2009 the hottest skate is the valo broskow using that boot with a bunch of shit mounted on it
Just because they started in 81, doesnt mean they started making rollerblades or better yet used that exact mould in 81.
try maybe 91?
al dolega
04.04.2009, 23:28
The bootshell that Valo uses is about thirty years old. It was actually used for ice skates before inline skating started. Roces was Rollerblade's manuafacturer for years before Rollerblade moved their stuff to Asia and Roces started selling skates themselves.
UPDATE
Day 2, Davenport Skatepark session, bowls, hips, ledges
So after day 1, which consisted of a mini session with tons of little kids, i took to an outdoor park, concrete, with tons of ledges, hips, pools, whatever, just a great flow park. Started messin' around, souls and whatnot on rusty ledges (angle iron rusted due to bikers), they usually require tons of wax. yet my first soul i laced the entire 20 feet. Kinda scared me to be honest, haha.
with Xsjados, i could back torque and royale anything due to the large royale plates, yet never felt in control. I could always get them locked but only hold a farv for like 10 feet max. I tried it in my Valos today, laced the entire ledge 3rd try, along with most of the ledge back torqued. The control on these grooves is unreal, not too fast, not too slow, just perfect sliding for max control.
Also today i noticed how well the weight was distributed in these skates. I realized, finally, that the reason xsjados feel so floppy is because they are bottom heavy. I could never put my finger on that fact until trying these valos. The weights is perfectly balanced, making the skate in a complete setup feel quite light, with no real points of heaviness. Sure, carbons will be lighter, but o well, these are a good weight IMO.
I am liking the liners too, however, after my 3 hour session, my ankles are a little raw, but my socks were damn thin, so o well.
These skates have given me a new found love for skating. i could care less about going big or anything, cuz with these, even the simplest soul feels perfect
Jon Julio is not gonna pay you for this. Or maybe someone from the Xsjado team banged your girlfriend, I dont know, because this "reviews" (based on skating one day with kids and a session the second day on a skatepark, how deep) cant be less objective
jay cocain
05.04.2009, 00:32
xsjadoARE THE GREATEST SKATE EVER TO LErN
Valo's have been a mixed bag for me. Sometimes I feel like they're the best skates ever and skate amazingly in them, but other times I hate the way they feel on my feet. I love the fact that they're a "full cuff" skate but you can still point the toe, but because of that they're pretty floppy. The shell fits my foot perfectly, but the liner sometimes makes my feet numb on the balls of my feet, probably need a new insole.
The thing that bugs me most though are the soul plates. Don't get me wrong, they grind amazingly but how much farther away from your foot can they be? They feel completely unnatural and I feel so disconnected from everything I grind. I can't get used to it either, I ribbed myself so hard today skating a rail because I thought the soul was closer than it actually was, and missed completely. I just can't get used to it. :(
*ROYALwithCHEESE*
05.04.2009, 00:57
dolegowned
indeed
I always felt like I could never get Xsjados tight enough, they fit my feet well enough but it seemed like the ankle was just going to flop over no matter how tight I pulled the little straps.
problem i had with xsjado is similar, either too loose and floppy, or tight enough but dug in at random places.
just to throw this into the mix, i also dislike the new carbons, razor gen shalls ftw.
I had the same problem with xsjados, but the new ones (specifically the DW1s) IMO don't seem to have it so far.
xsjado53089
05.04.2009, 01:50
get ready to be addicted...
UPDATE
Day 2, Davenport Skatepark session, bowls, hips, ledges
So after day 1, which consisted of a mini session with tons of little kids, i took to an outdoor park, concrete, with tons of ledges, hips, pools, whatever, just a great flow park. Started messin' around, souls and whatnot on rusty ledges (angle iron rusted due to bikers), they usually require tons of wax. yet my first soul i laced the entire 20 feet. Kinda scared me to be honest, haha.
with Xsjados, i could back torque and royale anything due to the large royale plates, yet never felt in control. I could always get them locked but only hold a farv for like 10 feet max. I tried it in my Valos today, laced the entire ledge 3rd try, along with most of the ledge back torqued. The control on these grooves is unreal, not too fast, not too slow, just perfect sliding for max control.
Also today i noticed how well the weight was distributed in these skates. I realized, finally, that the reason xsjados feel so floppy is because they are bottom heavy. I could never put my finger on that fact until trying these valos. The weights is perfectly balanced, making the skate in a complete setup feel quite light, with no real points of heaviness. Sure, carbons will be lighter, but o well, these are a good weight IMO.
I am liking the liners too, however, after my 3 hour session, my ankles are a little raw, but my socks were damn thin, so o well.
These skates have given me a new found love for skating. i could care less about going big or anything, cuz with these, even the simplest soul feels perfect
Jon Julio is not gonna pay you for this. Or maybe someone from the Xsjado team banged your girlfriend, I dont know, because this "reviews" (based on skating one day with kids and a session the second day on a skatepark, how deep) cant be less objective
So youre saying you cant learn if you like a skate or not from 6 hours of skating? I guess in some cases, you cant, but i felt i got a pretty good vibe for these skates already. If you can do all your tricks confidently in a new pair of skates within a 2 days, dont you think thats a positive? I didnt badmouth xsjado either, im just saying i like these better. I know julio isnt going to pay me, but nice thought as to how shallow i could be when saying i like a skate.
Cant win em all i guess.
Grand Galactic Inquisitor
05.04.2009, 03:31
[razor gen shells ftw.
LOL. Those things are fucking boats.
UPDATE
Day 2, Davenport Skatepark session, bowls, hips, ledges
So after day 1, which consisted of a mini session with tons of little kids, i took to an outdoor park, concrete, with tons of ledges, hips, pools, whatever, just a great flow park. Started messin' around, souls and whatnot on rusty ledges (angle iron rusted due to bikers), they usually require tons of wax. yet my first soul i laced the entire 20 feet. Kinda scared me to be honest, haha.
with Xsjados, i could back torque and royale anything due to the large royale plates, yet never felt in control. I could always get them locked but only hold a farv for like 10 feet max. I tried it in my Valos today, laced the entire ledge 3rd try, along with most of the ledge back torqued. The control on these grooves is unreal, not too fast, not too slow, just perfect sliding for max control.
Also today i noticed how well the weight was distributed in these skates. I realized, finally, that the reason xsjados feel so floppy is because they are bottom heavy. I could never put my finger on that fact until trying these valos. The weights is perfectly balanced, making the skate in a complete setup feel quite light, with no real points of heaviness. Sure, carbons will be lighter, but o well, these are a good weight IMO.
I am liking the liners too, however, after my 3 hour session, my ankles are a little raw, but my socks were damn thin, so o well.
These skates have given me a new found love for skating. i could care less about going big or anything, cuz with these, even the simplest soul feels perfect
Jon Julio is not gonna pay you for this. Or maybe someone from the Xsjado team banged your girlfriend, I dont know, because this "reviews" (based on skating one day with kids and a session the second day on a skatepark, how deep) cant be less objective
So youre saying you cant learn if you like a skate or not from 6 hours of skating? I guess in some cases, you cant, but i felt i got a pretty good vibe for these skates already. If you can do all your tricks confidently in a new pair of skates within a 2 days, dont you think thats a positive? I didnt badmouth xsjado either, im just saying i like these better. I know julio isnt going to pay me, but nice thought as to how shallow i could be when saying i like a skate.
Cant win em all i guess.
If I werent riding xsjados right now (those ones that apparently are sloppy and cant grind on them more than 10 feet) I'd be riding Valos, Im just saying youre exagerating (sp?) and overhyping them. By the way you talk about them, i'd expect them to make me skate perfect by magic. Lets be serious.
Julioisaroller
05.04.2009, 05:11
am i the only one that doesnt like valo?
dont get me wrong i support jon julio but i dont like the fucking skates at all...
The liners are flimsy and hurt my ankles.... I for one actually hate doing torques in them...
I do actually like the soulplates though
mike99mccarthy
05.04.2009, 06:06
I think valo's are sick..... but the liners is what makes or breaks them. I had the oli short m12's and the where the fire. they make eveything you do feel so precise. but the I got the baileys and they felt like shit. I mean total shit. but then I realize it was the liners that where sucking ass. I put the oli liners in them and then they felt amazing like my m12s did, except I had a better grinding soulframe system. oh and my theory on xsjado's is if you fit the small skeleton then you will love them and think they are amazing, but if you have to rock the large skeleton then they will feel stupid and sloppy. I mean if you think about..... i'm pretty sure the whole team wears the small skeleton.
oh and thanks for the history lesson al 8)
I did the same thing as you, switched from Xsjados to Valos. I liked them for about a week and then realized Xsjados are far superior. I did the same thing with the Aragon 2s as well except I skated those for almost a year.
Valo's have been a mixed bag for me. Sometimes I feel like they're the best skates ever and skate amazingly in them, but other times I hate the way they feel on my feet. I love the fact that they're a "full cuff" skate but you can still point the toe, but because of that they're pretty floppy. The shell fits my foot perfectly, but the liner sometimes makes my feet numb on the balls of my feet, probably need a new insole.
The thing that bugs me most though are the soul plates. Don't get me wrong, they grind amazingly but how much farther away from your foot can they be? They feel completely unnatural and I feel so disconnected from everything I grind. I can't get used to it either, I ribbed myself so hard today skating a rail because I thought the soul was closer than it actually was, and missed completely. I just can't get used to it. :(
i don't get the whole how far away from your foot can they be comment?
i would be happy to find salo liners for em but that aint happening, so ive heard great things about tv 2 liners from victor and hertel..
wait... how are Valo's lighter then Xsjados? Always felt as if Valo's were heavier.
god I have a fucked up sense of weight. :?
flyinryanthelion
05.04.2009, 10:42
i just traded some razors for valos and bought xsjados off a kid so i'll have both haha. yeah i didnt know what one i'd like more
SeanHunt3r
05.04.2009, 12:13
I definitely prefer the Valo boot to the Xjsado boot. Xjsado's are definitely not for me. When I skated the UFS M12's and then the Valo's....probably two of the most fun skates to be on.
im not saying they are lighter, but the weight distribution just feels more natural to me. Definitely not a heavy skate though. The royale groove is kind of slow right now, but locks a lot better for me.
Valo's have been a mixed bag for me. Sometimes I feel like they're the best skates ever and skate amazingly in them, but other times I hate the way they feel on my feet. I love the fact that they're a "full cuff" skate but you can still point the toe, but because of that they're pretty floppy. The shell fits my foot perfectly, but the liner sometimes makes my feet numb on the balls of my feet, probably need a new insole.
The thing that bugs me most though are the soul plates. Don't get me wrong, they grind amazingly but how much farther away from your foot can they be? They feel completely unnatural and I feel so disconnected from everything I grind. I can't get used to it either, I ribbed myself so hard today skating a rail because I thought the soul was closer than it actually was, and missed completely. I just can't get used to it. :(
i don't get the whole how far away from your foot can they be comment?
i would be happy to find salo liners for em but that aint happening, so ive heard great things about tv 2 liners from victor and hertel..
It was a sarcastic comment. I feel they're too far away from your foot, and it sucks :(
niceawaymessage
05.04.2009, 16:16
just started skating valos, coming from classic razors. they fit like a glove...the souls are too far from your foot but eventually it will feel natural. other than that, i skated xsjados for a few years and they do get floppy and i always hated the ping pong paddle souls. valos slide fast as shit too, fastest soul plates ive ever skated.
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