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calish4rk
20.02.2010, 14:41
bruce lee
xsjado53089
20.02.2010, 14:53
bruce lee roy-
hows the camups and the girls
Girls with shiny faces annoy the shit outta me for some reason..
salomonskater
20.02.2010, 20:48
Dude, the fact that they go to Hardvard doesn't mean shit, in fact a lot of people that graduate business there, fail at life because they can't make the difference between real life and the theory bullshit from school. I am not saying that school is not important, I am saying that especially for business, graduating from a reputated school doesn't mean nothing.
Dude, the fact that they go to Hardvard doesn't mean shit, in fact a lot of people that graduate business there, fail at life because they can't make the difference between real life and the theory bullshit from school. I am not saying that school is not important, I am saying that especially for business, graduating from a reputated school doesn't mean nothing.
Truth is that most western corporations don't give a shit about what school you went to and some won't even look at your resume if they know you are a recent ivy league grad. At UPS we had some new harvard grads working in the IE department, they all quit within two years because they weren't given the the top manager jobs they thought they deserved. Cigna healthcare released an internal memo years ago saying that community college applicants get priority over the ones who went to the big expensive schools. In the end most of the grads from that school will end up being middle managers who drive the cheapest BMW they can afford in an attempt try to look rich.
basshole
20.02.2010, 21:33
graduating from a reputated school doesn't mean nothing.
im gonna take a shot in the dark and guess that you didnt graduate from harvard
mescalito
20.02.2010, 23:34
are you gonna say that because it doesnt mean nothing?
hahahah i think graduating from harvard means more than "keeping it real" at community college.
CommonSense01
21.02.2010, 00:17
If you're commenting on this messageboard it means you fucked up at some point in your life and should not be commenting or criticizing anyone.
SilentAssassin
21.02.2010, 00:45
Dude, the fact that they go to Hardvard doesn't mean shit, in fact a lot of people that graduate business there, fail at life because they can't make the difference between real life and the theory bullshit from school. I am not saying that school is not important, I am saying that especially for business, graduating from a reputated school doesn't mean nothing.
you just made me break my pact to say that you are a fucking idiot. People that go to good schools do WAYYYY better than people that go to some shit school. I know two Harvard grads, and both make bank in jobs in their fields. The people that get into High reputation and prestigious schools are a shit load smarter, and more motivated than you or me. so that alone means that they will be set in life. And yeah companies like UPS and USPS aren't going to look at harvard, yale, or oxford grads... because they are WAYYY overqualified. It also depends on the field too, if you go to harvard for architecture, or physics, you are almost guaranteed a high level job in your field. But something like Psychology or Environmental Sciences.. not so much simply because you don't need a harvard level degree to get a job in those fields.
YEA!!!! I also I know one, or two people who support whatever point i'm about to try and validate in the next few sentences I'm about to write. sentences. sentences. sentences. There for this general view on an abstract, and ambiguous subject matter of which I have really no direct/empirical knowledge of must therefor be true. Did I mention that you were wrong?
salomonskater
21.02.2010, 12:34
The people that get into High reputation and prestigious schools are a shit load smarter, and more motivated than you or me.
You are just being wrong on this one. Stop saying stereotypes please. There are plenty of people who go there just because their parents want them to go there or/and have been brainwashed about it, not because they are smarter!
There are plenty of successful businessmans that didn't graduated university, the foundator of Microsoft and Dell are just two exemples out of a lot.
And as for your exemple of "I know 2 persons that gratuated Harvard and they are teh shit", well I know a person that graduated business there and he completely fails at life because he obviously has no fucking idea how the real world works.
And by the way, the fact that you learn physics or architecture in a prestigious school also doesn't work. Somebody with a natural talent can be shitloads more successful in their domain that somebody that goes to Harvard.
Next time, think a little bit instead of rushing to your keyboard to call me an idiot.
If you're commenting on this messageboard it means you fucked up at some point in your life and should not be commenting or criticizing anyone.
I disagree.
basshole
21.02.2010, 12:57
There are plenty of successful businessmans that didn't graduated university, the foundator of Microsoft and Dell are just two exemples out of a lot.
ahahahahahahaha
this post is so fucking stupid. can somebody delete this? first of all, my brother is getting his MASTERS at HBS, not undergrad. my brother is paying the $200,000 tuition himself from the money that he saved from working on wall street at Morgan Stanley for four years. not only did he save that much money while living in one of the most expensive cities in the world, but he also got me and my mom a bunch of nice shit. you don't go to harvard business school to "get a job", you go to HBS after you've already spent a couple years working at another job, and deciding that you want to be a millionaire before 30.
so all you fucks that think that "oh HBS is just like regular skool lol, its a recession", you guys are fucking stupid.
Supernintendo Chalmers
21.02.2010, 13:26
there isn't some secret business book that the ivy league schools have access to while others don't. all schools generally teach the same material. however, harvard will probably have a professor that actually worked on wall street or as a high level executive while your community college won't. regardless, that is all a moot point anyway because everyone knows the main reason to go to harvard is to make contacts. you're not going to meet people in community college that can help you get a 6 figure senior executive job once you graduate.
th_remedy086
21.02.2010, 14:08
Sounds like some ppl are QQing in here because they don't have access to such schools. While I agree that just because you go to a nice school a nice job isn't SURE to follow, but if you get in a nice school like that and take your education seriously and apply your self then I would say it gives you a slight leg up. Not because of the name but because big schools like that have good speakers and I would hope good teachers.
SilentAssassin
21.02.2010, 14:23
Its about being able to go to an interview and saying, "I graduated from a world class college". No you are not guaranteed a job just by going to harvard, but to say that going to harvard is worthless and that community college graduates do just as good as harvard grads is completely ignorant. anyone can go to community college, you don't even have to have attended a day of highschool to get in. meaning there is a shit load more fuck ups, low life, and general people that have no direction in life. And I am not saying that you need a degree or even an education to be successful either. College isn't for everyone. But when a big and well known company is hiring for an administrative position. And they have two people applying, One an Ivy League graduate, and a Community College graduate. Both have the same job experience, same GPA, and same merits. They will go with the Ivy League grad because the school he/she attended is way harder to get into and complete than any community college.
SilentAssassin
21.02.2010, 14:27
Sounds like some ppl are QQing in here because they don't have access to such schools. While I agree that just because you go to a nice school a nice job isn't SURE to follow, but if you get in a nice school like that and take your education seriously and apply your self then I would say it gives you a slight leg up. Not because of the name but because big schools like that have good speakers and I would hope good teachers.
Harvard gets something like a Billion dollars a year in funding. Which would mean that they can afford to have the best of the best when it comes to professors, and scholars.
th_remedy086
21.02.2010, 14:30
So really some be-tards need to man up and either don't say anything or say congrats on getting into a balling ass school and good luck.
SilentAssassin
21.02.2010, 14:34
^^ agreed. Pretty incredible to get into the masters program!
th_remedy086
21.02.2010, 14:38
I'd kill a baby and/or puppy to get in. just kidding....sort of
I wonder how many families his brother helped put on the curb working on wall street so that he could go to Harvard. :confused:
randy lahey
21.02.2010, 15:28
:( where did he go undergrad / do you know what his gpa was? fuck hbs but im trying to get paiiid
calish4rk
21.02.2010, 15:36
Harvard gets something like a Billion dollars a year in funding. Which would mean that they can afford to have the best of the best when it comes to professors, and scholars.
1.000.000.000 $ ?
no way.
SilentAssassin
21.02.2010, 15:38
1.000.000.000 $ ?
no way.
truth.. I have talked to people that know people that go there that know people. it must be true!
seriously though they have a shitload of money.
its all who you know, now shut it
Supernintendo Chalmers
21.02.2010, 16:59
I wonder how many families his brother helped put on the curb working on wall street so that he could go to Harvard. :confused:
probably significantly less than the number of families who are surviving because of wall street.
probably significantly less than the number of families who are surviving because of wall street.
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salomonskater
21.02.2010, 17:23
So really some be-tards need to man up and either don't say anything or say congrats on getting into a balling ass school and good luck.
Sorry but "future business leaders of the world" is overexagerated and sounds pretentious. That's why I made all the drama about it.
Knucklehead
21.02.2010, 17:35
Money make the girls wet.
1.000.000.000 $ ?
no way.
no way? more like TWENTY FIVE BILLION IN THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2009, DOWN BY 25% COMPARED TO 2008 ( 36 BILLION
http://www.nacubo.org/Documents/research/2009_NCSE_Public_Tables_Endowment_Market_Values.pd f
In somewhat related news, I was accepted to Columbia Law School on Friday.
SilentAssassin
21.02.2010, 21:29
In somewhat related news, I was accepted to Columbia Law School on Friday.
Law School Is worthless.. go read a book and start a peoples court type tv show!
salomonskater
21.02.2010, 21:44
Law School Is worthless.. go read a book and start a peoples court type tv show!
So it's ok to say that law school is worthless but to say this with business school is EVIL? :s
And by the way I didn't said that it's worthless, I said that it doesn't necesserely insure you a successful job.
oh and let's see if this "future business leaders of the world" statement is invalid
Harvard Business alumni:
{insert random manes here}
you motherfuckers can be absolutely retarded sometimes
That is a good list but every other major university in the world has one just like, even.... GASP!... state schools
Umass:
Cory Atkins, (B.S. 1979), member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives (served 1999 - present)[21]
Daniel E. Bosley, (M.S. 1996), member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives (served 1986 - present)
Christine E. Canavan, (B.S. Nursing (summa cum laude) 1988), member of the Mass. House of Representatives (served 1993 - present)[22]
Tim Costello (1945-2009), labor and anti-globalization advocate and author[23]
Joseph Patrick Kennedy II, (B.A. 1976), current President of Citizens Energy Corporation and former member of the US House of Representatives (served 1986-1999)
Thomas Menino, (B.A. Community Planning, 1988). Mayor of the City of Boston
Robert Travaglini, B.S. 1974. former President, Massachusetts State Senate
Steve Sweeney, B.A. 1974, Comedian
Panayiota Bertzikis, B.A. 2010, Humanitarian
Joseph Abboud, B.A. 1972, Fashion Designer
Dana White, President of the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC)
Robert Haynes, President of the Massachusetts AFL-CIO
Joseph Abboud (fashion designer)
Norm Abram (carpenter on This Old House)
David Branch (commissioner of the Canadian Hockey League)
Steve Buckley (Boston Herald Sports Columnist)
Catherine Coleman (astronaut) {didn't see an astronaut on the harvard list}
Bonnie Comley (Tony Award winning producer)
Russell Alan Hulse (physics Nobelist)
Madeleine Kunin (Governor of Vermont)
Hugh Loebner (demographer, social activist)
Marty Meehan (politician; since July 2007, Chancellor of UMass Lowell)
Kelly Overton (Writer and founder of People Protecting Animals & Their Habitats)
Vivek Paul (former Vice President of Wipro Technologies)
Jim Perdue (Chairman of Perdue)
Jack Smith (former CEO of General Motors)
Sarah Stevenson (Director of Community/Player Relations, Boston Red Sox)
Mike Tannenbaum (general manager NFL New York Jets)
Jeff Taylor (founder of Monster.com)
Joseph Hooton Taylor, Jr. (physics Nobelist)
Paul Theroux author
John Tobin (Boston City Councilor)
Jack Welch (former CEO of General Electric)
Hina Rabbani Khar (influenced politician of Pakistan)
zach friesner
21.02.2010, 21:47
So it's ok to say that law school is worthless but to say this with business school is EVIL? :s
And by the way I didn't said that it's worthless, I said that it doesn't necesserely insure you a successful job.
Are you retarded?
SilentAssassin
21.02.2010, 21:48
So it's ok to say that law school is worthless but to say this with business school is EVIL? :s
obviously joking...
but in all seriousness college in not necessary for success hell, highschool isn't necessary for success. All you need is love and dedication.
but for those people who do need college to be successfull.. Harvard is a better path than shit stain central community college.
SilentAssassin
21.02.2010, 21:49
That is a good list but every other major university in the world has one just like, even.... GASP!... state schools
Umass:
Cory Atkins, (B.S. 1979), member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives (served 1999 - present)[21]
Daniel E. Bosley, (M.S. 1996), member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives (served 1986 - present)
Christine E. Canavan, (B.S. Nursing (summa cum laude) 1988), member of the Mass. House of Representatives (served 1993 - present)[22]
Tim Costello (1945-2009), labor and anti-globalization advocate and author[23]
Joseph Patrick Kennedy II, (B.A. 1976), current President of Citizens Energy Corporation and former member of the US House of Representatives (served 1986-1999)
Thomas Menino, (B.A. Community Planning, 1988). Mayor of the City of Boston
Robert Travaglini, B.S. 1974. former President, Massachusetts State Senate
Steve Sweeney, B.A. 1974, Comedian
Panayiota Bertzikis, B.A. 2010, Humanitarian
Joseph Abboud, B.A. 1972, Fashion Designer
Dana White, President of the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC)
Robert Haynes, President of the Massachusetts AFL-CIO
Joseph Abboud (fashion designer)
Norm Abram (carpenter on This Old House)
David Branch (commissioner of the Canadian Hockey League)
Steve Buckley (Boston Herald Sports Columnist)
Catherine Coleman (astronaut) {didn't see an astronaut on the harvard list}
Bonnie Comley (Tony Award winning producer)
Russell Alan Hulse (physics Nobelist)
Madeleine Kunin (Governor of Vermont)
Hugh Loebner (demographer, social activist)
Marty Meehan (politician; since July 2007, Chancellor of UMass Lowell)
Kelly Overton (Writer and founder of People Protecting Animals & Their Habitats)
Vivek Paul (former Vice President of Wipro Technologies)
Jim Perdue (Chairman of Perdue)
Jack Smith (former CEO of General Motors)
Sarah Stevenson (Director of Community/Player Relations, Boston Red Sox)
Mike Tannenbaum (general manager NFL New York Jets)
Jeff Taylor (founder of Monster.com)
Joseph Hooton Taylor, Jr. (physics Nobelist)
Paul Theroux author
John Tobin (Boston City Councilor)
Jack Welch (former CEO of General Electric)
Hina Rabbani Khar (influenced politician of Pakistan)
Notice how both schools posted so far are based in Boston... haha.
zach friesner
21.02.2010, 21:51
My dad didn't go to college and he's a mid-level manager at a insurance company. He said he didn't need a degree to get to where he is now, it just would have taken him less time to work his way up if he had the degree.
randy lahey
21.02.2010, 21:52
college today = high school for your parents . good luck with your GEDs.
SilentAssassin
21.02.2010, 21:56
My dad didn't go to college and he's a mid-level manager at a insurance company. He said he didn't need a degree to get to where he is now, it just would have taken him less time to work his way up if he had the degree.
most companies don't promote from the inside. At least meaning, you don't go from say a sales rep to a corporate position. You really have to know how to talk to work your way up in any company. People have a bad notion that if you show a good work ethic and put forth effort that it will go noticed and you will be promoted/receive raises. But, really its all about who you get to know and how well you get to know them. You could work a week as a Administrators assistant, and if you know how to talk to people and talk to the right people, you could have a manager position.
:Edit:
yeah your post just reminded me of this. no other connection really.
SilentAssassin
21.02.2010, 22:01
in addition. My old boss at Papa Johns worked as a Driver for 3 months before he was made into General Manager of a Store. 8 months later he became a corporate Management Trainer. less than a year later he owned 4 franchises.
Now he owns Every Papa Johns Franchise in the Rochester Area and two other restaurant chains.
don't know what this has to do with anything, just thought it was interesting.
Also, he is only 27
-Fifty50-
21.02.2010, 23:22
ITT: Experienced college graduates who have made a great living for themselves either by use of their degree or their hard work.
davidthemurderer
21.02.2010, 23:56
this is one of the most frustrating posts i've ever read. i hope you guys don't actually believe the things you say
SilentAssassin
22.02.2010, 09:18
this is one of the most frustrating posts i've ever read. i hope you guys don't actually believe the things you say
elaborate.. give us your correct information on the subject
Grindguru
22.02.2010, 09:22
college today = high school for your parents .
true story
boot of fruit
22.02.2010, 09:25
unsure faces's karate man sig is c-a-razy. dude is chopping bottles in half
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