Liftin weights / fitness ...working out

[calish4rk]

for the ones that do it...

how many times a week you think it's the best?

[austin sullivan]

3-4.

[austin from texas]

i try to do 3 or 4

but because of laziness and super self consciousness i usually only get like 2 a week
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if you wanna be hardcore about it, you can alternate days

mon/wed/fri- upper body/cardio
tue/thu-lower body/core

just dont work out the same muscle groups two days in a row. thats how you make yourself feel like shit

also dont overdo it when you start out. gets really discouraging

[Gonzalo]

I do P90X and it has 3 days of cardio, 3 days of resistance workouts and one rest day every week.

[tyson]

it really depends if you want to get buff or just good level of general fitness.
and if you skate alot you probably don't want to be doing heavy leg workouts because you'll get jelly legs everytime you skate.

i generally do pure weights. i'm to lazy cardio but would like to start running to and from work. it's only a couple of k's and i would probably enjoi a higher level of fitness.

usually 4 days. one days i'll do arms, another shoulder, back, then chest.... on all these days there'll be core work and i try to put in some body weight squats (generally about 100), calf raises, lunges on atleast one day.

and if you can't be bothered doing all that shit.... get a chin-up bar.

lots of running, heaps of core, heaps of pull ups with lots of different grip positions, and push-ups with all the variations.... basic but those 4 things probably work beast of all because your using plenty of muscles in each exercise

[Charlie Hustles]

Monday: cardio, "push" muscles, abs

Tuesday: cardio, "pull" muscles, abs

Wednesday: cardio, "push" muscles, legs

Thursday: cardio, "pull" muscles, abs

Friday: cardio, "push" muscles, abs

Saturday: cardio, "pull" muscles, legs

Sunday: don't work-out or eat food



I can explain the specific exercises if you want.

[Muppet4Eternity]

I do press ups and rocket squats every night before I go to bed if my body is in sufficient condition.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

Sunday: don't work-out or eat food



that's a terrible idea. why would you not eat when your body needs energy to repair itself from you working out all week?

[Geoff from Fl]

Crossfit: Workout of the Day almost daily with mixing in some running.
Crossfit.com

Love it.

Rest day.

[Charlie Hustles]

that's a terrible idea. why would you not eat when your body needs energy to repair itself from you working out all week?

Actually, when you eat, your body must spend most of its energy digesting food. When you don't eat, all of your stored energy is directed towads repairing your body. It also helps you get ripped by burning off excess fat.

[Gonzalo]

Actually, when you eat, your body must spend most of its energy digesting food. When you don't eat, all of your stored energy is directed towads repairing your body.

That's a huge pile of BS.

[Charlie Hustles]

I believe I can fly.

[austin from texas]

You may not have heard of intermittent fasting, and so you may not know why it can and should be a part of your workout and fat loss plan. Intermittent fasting is the practice of abstaining from all but water for a period of usually 24 hours to help with the goals associated with fat loss and weight loss in general. The way in which it helps in this arena is by cutting out a full days caloric intake, while still being able to maintain a full workout schedule. Let’s look at three main reasons I believe that intermittent fasting is a good idea for anyone serious about fat loss and muscle building!

for the rest of the article and /wall of text/ avoidance
http://supertrainingblog.com/3-great-reasons-why-intermittent-fasting-is-a-good-idea/

edit: theres a lot of bs in that article, no science


There is a cleansing of your system that takes place with any fast, as your body adjusts to less content being put into it.
most useful sentence in there

try this link. theres a shit-ton of shit there
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/wotw28.htm

[Geoff from Fl]

Actually, when you eat, your body must spend most of its energy digesting food. When you don't eat, all of your stored energy is directed towads repairing your body. It also helps you get ripped by burning off excess fat.

Brother, I assure you that is NOT correct.

Like I said in the fasting thread you started, if you're building you need the materials to build.

If your body repairs WITHOUT food, then why do all dietitians and fitness experts recommend taking protein after a work out to FUEL the muscle growth?

The fasting stuff is ridiculous fad dieting stuff that shows temporary results based on water loss.

Your muscles will not grow unless they have some sort of fuel to grow. If your lifting and fasting you might look "ripped" but you will have noticeable loss in strength.

[Charlie Hustles]

I believe I can fly.

Oh, word.

[Charlie Hustles]

Fuck it, I'm bored so I'll explain myself rather than being enigmatic.

I understand that you need protein to build muscle. That is why I eat 1/2 gram of protein for every pound that I weigh each of the six days that I workout. However, I do not take supplements and I also hardly eat meat, if at all. Therefore, it is sometimes difficult to get enough protein while maintaining a drastically low caloric intake, especially since I'm not the biggest fan of green vegetables. According to traditional body-building techniques, if you want a lot of muscle mass and very defined abs and muscles, you have to basically starve yourself while taking lots of protein and other supplements. Your body burns about 2000 calories per day naturally which is also my target diet. If I fast for 24 hours on my rest day, that means that I am only skipping breakfast and lunch on Sunday with a light dinner that night to transition back to normal. That means that I am going to reduce my caloric intake on that day by about 1500 calories. Spread throughout the week that is 250 calories subtracted from each day. Without excercising at all, I am now burning fat. Add in about 500-1000 calories burned each day and I am now on my way to have no visible body fat and I can still eat some motherfucking candy whenever I feel like it and I only have to be hungry for one day instead of the whole week. Now this is not just water-weight loss because I am not doing a water-fast. I actually probably drink more water because it helps me not feel hungry. I work out during the afternoon, so my body has had about 18 hours to absorb protein and repair muscles by the time I skip my first meal on Sunday morning. I do not loose any strength from this. Realistically, I believe that my routine, only using a single dumbell and body-weight resistance exercises, actually gives me much more functional strength than the hardly-useful strength of traditonal body-builders. With my body-type and goals for the use of this strength, my methods will obviously be different than most people. Think Floyd Mayweather not Mike Tyson. Now there are the other benefits, like cleaning out your system. I think it keeps me in good health because ever since I started eating way less, I am never sick and my immune system is able to fight off sickness much better. Whether you agree with this or not, try it out sometime and see how you feel. I feel like it works, though it might all have to do with your mindset. I like the mental discipline of it as well. I also like the fact that it saves me money by only spending about $1 on a bowl of soup to eat that day. You can call it a fad, but badass Shaolin monks and the like have been doing this kind of thing for centuries. I'm not saying that it is for everyone but it works for me.

[salomonskater]

Wall of text

Post a pic of you to support the arguments. ;)

[DanielBreuer]

Rock climbing. Best work out ever. Monday/Wednesday 8-10. Plus my 5 mile bike ride to the climbing center.

[Corey O.]

I work out almost everyday unless I work a 12-9 shift, and even then I usually slip in a small work out. I will work the same muscle groups two days in a row if the first day doesnt leave my muscles sore the next day.

[Pulp]

http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/5387/original/Potentialassmuncher.jpg
i'm 18, by the way.

[DanielBreuer]

http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/5387/original/Potentialassmuncher.jpg
i'm 18, by the way.

a/s/l?

[Charlie Hustles]

Post a pic of you to support the arguments. ;)

Not trying to be that vain.

[salomonskater]

Not trying to be that vain.

Oh wait, I forgot to mention no homo.

[chimbaktu]

mon: abs, biceps and triceps
tues: abs, chest
wed: rock climbing and skating
thurs: back, shoulders
Fri: abs, legs

Saturday and Sunday are rest days/skating. I cycle throughout the week so that plus skating, plus the occasional jog takes care of any cardio.


you don't burn fat by working out and not eating, you just burn muscle and exhaust your body. you're fucking stupid.

[Charlie Hustles]

If you're talking to me, I said nothing about working out and then not eating afterwards. But, yes, that is basicaly what body-builders do. Load and then cut. When they cut, they work-out hard and maintain an extremely low caloric intake with a lot of protein supplements and shit.

[Josh_Morrison]

i just joined a gym last week, im planning on going 2-3 times a week + take a class. their is some yoga type class which helps improve balance and flexibility, hopefully my skating will benefit, either way i get to watch hot brauds do stretches for an hour

[chimbaktu]

If you're talking to me, I said nothing about working out and then not eating afterwards. But, yes, that is basicaly what body-builders do. Load and then cut. When they cut, they work-out hard and maintain an extremely low caloric intake with a lot of protein supplements and shit.


in the off season they pack on a bunch of weight and build up their muscle, then when competition comes around they spend a month or two cutting weight and concentrate on burning fat exclusively. That's also the reason why they are very weak during competitions and prone to sickness and other shit, because for the last couple of days they've starved themselves. the whole body building analogy doesn't really support your argument since they are going exclusively for aesthetics and are not very healthy during competition time when they are cutting weight.


and you said you spend one day out of the week fasting on your rest day when your body is repairing itself. that's very dumb and there's 0 credible nutritional science to support your idea.

[Charlie Hustles]

My rest days are the days after I work-out either "push" or "pull". I work-out each group 3 days a week, so I have 3 rest days for each.

http://blog.randhobart.org.uk/wp-content/gallery/people/charles_bronson-prisoner2.jpg

I think I'll stick with what Charlie told me.

[APhustla]

hahah i'm fucking ripped! fuck fasting

[Grindguru]

Don't train the same muscle group more than once a week unless you use steroids, since more than that will not make any difference and may put you in a state of overtraining.

I train:
Mon: Back/Chest
Wen: Arms/Shoulders
Fri: Legs/Abs

3 excercises on each muslce group, 2 sets a la 10-12 reps

I know many people will tell you stuff that contradict this, but in fact this is a scheme handed to me by a REAL IFBB trainer. In other words he makes a living constructing schemas to bodybuilders.

Myself I went from typical rollerblader skinny 70kg/155lbs to 90kg/200lbs over the last 2 years (minimal fat ofcourse). 10 kg/ year is considered super good gains on a year if you don't use any steroids!

[calish4rk]

ok , so I need to read all the replies but I need to know this one urgent somehow


it really depends if you want to get buff or just good level of general fitness.
and if you skate alot you probably don't want to be doing heavy leg workouts because you'll get jelly legs everytime you skate.

i generally do pure weights. i'm to lazy cardio but would like to start running to and from work. it's only a couple of k's and i would probably enjoi a higher level of fitness.

usually 4 days. one days i'll do arms, another shoulder, back, then chest.... on all these days there'll be core work and i try to put in some body weight squats (generally about 100), calf raises, lunges on atleast one day.

and if you can't be bothered doing all that shit.... get a chin-up bar.

lots of running, heaps of core, heaps of pull ups with lots of different grip positions, and push-ups with all the variations.... basic but those 4 things probably work beast of all because your using plenty of muscles in each exercise

JELLY LEGS? I have been thinking about it, but never heard of this, see my legs are way more shaped than the other parts... So maybe rollerblading on it's own would be enough for legs.
wtf is jelly legs...


and thanks guys basically all the internet's info in one thread ill post results



edit: another thing, so... does cardio mean condition? i always confuse it... if so I have an artificial bike, but I run everyday ... and rollerblade when I can

[Charlie Hustles]

Don't train the same muscle group more than once a week unless you use steroids, since more than that will not make any difference and may put you in a state of overtraining.

I know from experience that this is not true.

[CommonSense01]

Day 1: Biceps/Triceps
Day 2: Shoulders/Trapezoids
Day 3: Quads, Hamstrings, Calves
Day 4: Back
Day 5: Chest

Then I throw 3 sets of an ab exercise at the end each day. Play basketball for a couple hours on Friday and swim every once in a while.

Each day takes around 2 hours of lifting. My workouts take pretty long compared to when I started as I've been working on muscle endurance lately and just require more exercises to get that same level of tiredness while not sacrificing intensity (switching fast-twitch muscle fibers from Type IIX to Type IIA).

Remember that exercise is only 1/2 the battle. This shit won't go far if you're still eating horribly. I've put the energy in lately to really staying committed to eating right and it's really paid off. Been maintaing the same amount of weight (183ish), but the amount of fat I have is definitely decreasing and I'm still making decent gains in strength (not as good as when I bulked up from 160 to 180, but still).

The thing about starting an exercise program from square one is to keep with it, no matter what. I remember starting to exercise again after shoulder surgery/rehab and it's hard with how weak you feel. Just keep with it, no matter how dejecting each day is and you'll begin to feel better as time goes by.