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Its always gotta be somethin doesn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeKtcHIbMjY
Hmmm, power scooters, concrete, medicine, water treatment supplies and other kinds of aid.....yup must be terrorists........disgrace they didn't make it.
Anyway, let me address some potential arguments. Israel boarded them on international waters, the people reacted and hit the soldiers with various things, then the Israelis opened fire. Anyway, it's a disproportionate use of force, rubber bullets would have done just fine. There was no need to kill people after illegally boarding an aid vessel.
Then there is the "Israel has rights to defend their border argument", but that raises the question if Gaza or the Palestinian territories to be more precise are part of Israel, which obviously they are not when several nation states recognize Palestine as a state.
Anyway, there may be facts I'm missing but from what I've read, there is no proof of weapons on board, and I think I think it's just plain wrong to block humanitarian aide let alone kill people in order to do so. I don't sympathize with any radical Islamic cause but I think Israel has the means to set up a security screening at the docks, and let at least medicine and food in if you want to block building materials.
Metric Fuck-Ton
31.05.2010, 23:07
Fuck Israel.
Ugg
I hope they lift restrictions on aid to Palestine. But aside from that. Pointless loss of life, it is sad. I'm kinda confused as to why things like this seem like they keep happening in Israel. But I'm not local so I don't really give two shats.
They were warned in advance not to attempt to cross into Gaza. They did not comply with millitary orders and took up arms against a force stronger than them. This was a provoked attack, nothing else.
*ROYALwithCHEESE*
01.06.2010, 04:56
One of the people on board was a former holocaust survivor who likened the blockade to what the nazis did to ghettos in Poland.
Just like that douch who tried to board a jap whaling boat, hopping on board another ship in international waters is against the law.'If they did anything it should of been in Israeli waters. If they were worried about weapons they should have asked to check everything.
Starving a race and being surprised they act like animals is pretty dumb.
gambiacrumember
01.06.2010, 05:22
Oh Israel, you so crazy.
What the hell are you people talking about? I was referring to how goofy they were acting at Eurovision..............
But the german girl that won was highly bangable
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/201005/norway_eurovision_song_cont.21a_500.jpg
http://www.mp3lyrics.org/l/lena-meyer-landrut/lena-meyer-landrut_1.Jpg
wuckwuck
One of the people on board was a former holocaust survivor who likened the blockade to what the nazis did to ghettos in Poland.
Just like that douch who tried to board a jap whaling boat, hopping on board another ship in international waters is against the law.'If they did anything it should of been in Israeli waters. If they were worried about weapons they should have asked to check everything.
Starving a race and being surprised they act like animals is pretty dumb.
We'll find out how the Israeli military will react to the second fleet of boats being sent from turkey pretty soon here. Egypt also opened up their borders today. I just hope Hamas doesn't do anything stupid to further provoke Israel during this time like try to smuggle weapons in.
Oh I see what you all are talking about now. ;) Apparently this is a big deal.
You gotta admit that Israel is a clever entity. Check out this computer program developed for Israel supporters to always know when there is a poll on the internet related to Israel.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Megaphone_screenshot.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
It alerts people in real time of the poll, and then when you click the pop up it automatically votes for whatever the pro-Israeli option is. Their rhetoric is very organized. kudos.
bom the israeli
01.06.2010, 11:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeKtcHIbMjY
Hmmm, power scooters, concrete, medicine, water treatment supplies and other kinds of aid.....yup must be terrorists........disgrace they didn't make it.
Anyway, let me address some potential arguments. Israel boarded them on international waters, the people reacted and hit the soldiers with various things, then the Israelis opened fire. Anyway, it's a disproportionate use of force, rubber bullets would have done just fine. There was no need to kill people after illegally boarding an aid vessel.
Then there is the "Israel has rights to defend their border argument", but that raises the question if Gaza or the Palestinian territories to be more precise are part of Israel, which obviously they are not when several nation states recognize Palestine as a state.
Anyway, there may be facts I'm missing but from what I've read, there is no proof of weapons on board, and I think I think it's just plain wrong to block humanitarian aide let alone kill people in order to do so. I don't sympathize with any radical Islamic cause but I think Israel has the means to set up a security screening at the docks, and let at least medicine and food in if you want to block building materials.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo
The truth is the soldiers were equipped with paint-ball rifle and guns.
When the helicopter dropped the first soldiers the guys on the boat tried to take down the helicopter by tying the cable to an antenna and throwing stuff into the rotors; The pilot had no choice but to cut the rope and leave 4 soldiers alone on the boat. Some crazy as Turkish beat the shit out of them with metal bars and stabbed a couple, then threw a soldier to the lower floor, 10 meters drop, and the guy was almost dead. Then the protesters took 2 guns off the beat up soldiers and opened fire. Only then other soldiers boarded and shot back, aiming at their legs. Most of the dead guys died because they didn't get treatment on time. Bottom line, the whole thing was the best the Palestinians could ask for; Israelis killing poor Peace makers in front of cameras.
I still think the whole thing was stupid cause we could've simply not let the boat through but nobody expected the protesters would try to kill anyone or act as violent as that.
About the humanitarian aide, we did send all of what was on the boats to Gaza.
They were warned in advance not to attempt to cross into Gaza. They did not comply with military orders and took up arms against a force stronger than them. This was a provoked attack, nothing else.
This is also a way to look at it.
greg is cool
01.06.2010, 11:35
everyone hates the short guy with a Napoleon complex, and thats what israel is. wheres a true giant to come stomp them when u need them to. fucking children, look what terrible things they r doing in the name of their religion.
everyone hates the short guy with a Napoleon complex, and thats what israel is. wheres a true giant to come stomp them when u need them to. fucking children, look what terrible things they r doing in the name of their religion.
I have the best solution. USA trades all the land of Israel for all the land of Florida. All the Israelis move to Florida, and we let them continue on ethnically cleansing all the Floridians off the face of the earth. Now theres peace in the middle east, and theres no more people from Florida reproducing.
Troll has just solved the middle east crisis, AND raised the American average IQ index by like 10 points. BOOYAH.
greg is cool
01.06.2010, 12:22
I have the best solution. USA trades all the land of Israel for all the land of Florida. All the Israelis move to Florida, and we let them continue on ethnically cleansing all the Floridians off the face of the earth. Now theres peace in the middle east, and theres no more people from Florida reproducing.
Troll has just solved the middle east crisis, AND raised the American average IQ index by like 10 points. BOOYAH.
south fl is pretty much a little israel already, have u heard of boca raton, aventura, or miami beach? Jew central buddy.
south fl is pretty much a little israel already, have u heard of boca raton, aventura, or miami beach? Jew central buddy.
Yeah I think everyone knows south Florida has a large Jewish population, which only supports my suggestion further. They seem to like the place. I say let them have it as long as their willing to clean up all the garbage walking around. If Israel wanted to they could probably annex it without USA doing anything about it. We would probably send them munitions, and money to support the cause. Canada, and the UK would be down with that shit too.
Its really the most logical solution.
I SUPPORT THE ISRAELI OCCUPATION OF FLORIDA. Get your bumper stickers people.
Boris, I'm worried about you brah. This thing could escalate very quickly. Better admit you're gay and stay out of the service, brah. I'll vouch for you.
oldmanriver
01.06.2010, 12:45
Still happening over some stupid fucking religious shit!
Still happening over some stupid fucking religious shit!
from what i have learned and studied, i would suggest that religion was and has mostly been secondary to this conflict, though it does provide an extremely potent fuel to mobilize mass support on both sides... it's a good diversion and sounds like a noble cause to fight for, just like the defense of the american homeland and the spread of democracy
when talking about war in general, your best bet is to look at economic interactions for the source of antagonism. it's not always the case of course, but it is a damn strong starting point
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EMP226SVL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
the book is a boring read, but the content is insightful
don't think on terms of some vague ideological opposition; look at how land, wealth and jobs are distributed in this region. what would piss you off more; somebody insulting your religion and calling it bullshit... or somebody systematically taking away: your land, your educational opportunities, your ability to conduct trade with the world market, your ability to find a job and even if you do find a job you now deal with severe restrictions on mobility (erecting checkpoints) and now your access to basic humanitarian aid. no doubt the whole religious discourse solidifies your hatred, but it is not the source of the conflict
the same goes for the World Wars, Iraq, etc.
R-MONEY$$$
01.06.2010, 14:13
Will those of you paid by the Palestinians to spout their rhetoric on message boards please step forward?
First of all, I wouldn't side with ANYONE yet. Especially blindly believing everything the Israeli military and media spin. You can't just listen to some butt face fuck on the news and say "YEP THATS IT, CASE CLOSED!". Boarding a vessel on international waters, the crew on board was legally allowed to attack the pirates. That's the bottom line here. And honestly how the fuck do we even know that video leaked to the media wasn't fake?
And just 2 months ago the Australian gov found out the Israeli army forged Australian passports in order to assassinate a Hammass leader in a Dubai hotel. Israel is fucking trying to start an all out nuclear war. Like seriously, fuck right off! I know a bit about the history of Israel, and how they have it pretty fucking rough, but at the moment they have the technology and army to wipe out majority of the middle east and they are starting to act more and more like Americans.
salomonskater
01.06.2010, 20:34
But the german girl that won was highly bangable
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/201005/norway_eurovision_song_cont.21a_500.jpg
http://www.mp3lyrics.org/l/lena-meyer-landrut/lena-meyer-landrut_1.Jpg
wuckwuck
DO NOT WANT
salomonskater
01.06.2010, 20:36
Boris, I'm worried about you brah. This thing could escalate very quickly. Better admit you're gay and stay out of the service, brah. I'll vouch for you.
Who the fuck is BORIS
Jake The Snake
01.06.2010, 20:45
i think ive got a solution, a final one
i think ive got a solution, a final one
:lol: :)
R-MONEY$$$
01.06.2010, 21:52
I have read 20 different articles and have read 20 totally different accounts. From they had body armor and bullets on board to they were a peaceful protest.
in conclusion it is all 100% bullshit propaganda to make you think and feel a specific way.
The only way to win is to go about your life and say "ya dey cool" until they try to smoke your family. Word up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggNymSJ52Fw
RIP to all those that died in the name of this propoganda
bom the israeli
02.06.2010, 02:33
How did we get so dumb?
Israel played into Hamas’ hands in an amateurish, pathetic way
Sima Kadmon
Published: 06.01.10, 16:14 / Israel Opinion
When was it that we were just a little less right and a little smarter instead? Almost everything we do in recent years suffers from lack of sophistication, insufficient consideration, and negligence. It appears that the dictum “don’t be right, be smart” grows more meaningful around here from one incident to the next, from one operation to the next, and from one war to the next.
What does it mean to be smart? For example, sending Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon to brief the foreign press in an incident where we killed Turkish nationals is not smart; the same Ayalon who reprimanded the Turkish envoy months ago as he sat in a low chair. It’s just like throwing a red rag into an arena of hungry bulls. Where’s the tact? Where’s our common sense?
It’s not as though the alternative, sending Foreign Minister Lieberman, was much better. Yet someone needs to think ahead, see the overall picture, understand the implications, and predict the reactions.
Yet we don’t need to go that far: As to the trap awaiting our troops at sea Monday, we can say that the writing was all over the water. For weeks they’ve been talking about the sail around here and what needs to be done about it. Yet they didn’t do one simple thing: A thorough intelligence check of the people who are on board these ships.
So is it any wonder that the incident on board the Marmara caused such shock to the Israeli public? Nobody prepared us for this. Nobody told us there would be such bloodshed and that we may find ourselves facing an international entanglement. And why should they prepare us? Our leadership itself didn’t know this.
When the defense minister spoke Monday about a radical Turkish group it was all very nice, but why did he have to do it after the fact? If you knew, Mr. Minister, that members of this organization were on board the vessel, why didn’t you prepare accordingly? And if you didn’t know – why didn’t you know?
This article explains pretty good the way I feel about this.
i fell like this shit may get out of hand, not on the board but in isreal, way to many countries wanna see that country just burn.
*ROYALwithCHEESE*
02.06.2010, 06:15
I am really sorry Be-mag for jumping to conclsuions on page 1 and being a big liberal douch.
I based my reponse on a video and the fact I couldnt belive anyone would be stupid enough to try and attack one of the worlds best special forces units.
In both cases I was wrong. The isreali youtube video showed people on the deck hitting commandos with metal poles and trying to make them fall off their rappelling rope.
So to sum it up Im a dumb ass gullibel douch and Im sorry, especially to the isreali members on this site.
Those so called peacefull protestors could help palastien better if they used those weapons to attack HAMAS.
Oh look. Australia apologizing for being racially insensitive. I feel like I've seen this movie before.
*ROYALwithCHEESE*
02.06.2010, 06:56
jewish isnt a race
WAh Wah WAAAAAAHHhhhhhhh
*ROYALwithCHEESE*
02.06.2010, 06:57
Im Mel Gibson BTW.
Want to join my church?
bom the israeli
02.06.2010, 07:00
ROYAL even if you posted a wall of text about how Jews should drown I'd still <3 you
Bom, what are the Hebron?
ROYAL even if you posted a wall of text about how Jews should drown I'd still <3 you
I lol when I see you post. Bom(b) the Israeli sound like a username Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would sign up for Be-mag with.
Unless its not pronounced bomb, but thats the way I hear it when I read it. Maybe I'm Mel Gibson too :shock:
bom the israeli
02.06.2010, 07:23
Hebron is a city?
And Bom is just a nickname I got in the army.
*ROYALwithCHEESE*
02.06.2010, 07:58
Jesus christ my spelling is atrocious, time for some glasses or spell check or a dictionary.
Isn't most to the hate directed at Israel because of a certain city and certain religious area?
oldmanriver
02.06.2010, 10:59
Bomb the Holy Land and make it truly have holes in it.
greg is cool
02.06.2010, 11:14
y dont the rest of the countries in the area that r tired of israels shit get together and do something about it? i dont think 1 if their neighbors are happy with them, so do something about it, and hopefully america wont step in and let israel get bitch slapped like it needs to. they r like a women running around saying wild shit acting like no1 will ever say shit since they got a big juice head BF(the US), then some random ass person smacks the bitch up while the BF does nothing becuase he knows the hoe deserved it. Thats what needs to happen with israel
y dont the rest of the countries in the area that r tired of israels shit get together and do something about it? i dont think 1 if their neighbors are happy with them, so do something about it, and hopefully america wont step in and let israel get bitch slapped like it needs to. they r like a women running around saying wild shit acting like no1 will ever say shit since they got a big juice head BF(the US), then some random ass person smacks the bitch up while the BF does nothing becuase he knows the hoe deserved it. Thats what needs to happen with israel
1948 War of Independence (November 1947 - July 1949), that started by a 6 months of civil war between Jewish and Arab militias at the end of the British Mandate of Palestine and that turned into a regular war after the declaration of independence of Israel and the intervention of several Arab armies. In its conclusion, a set of agreements were signed between Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria, called the 1949 Armistice Agreements which established the armistice lines between Israel and the West Bank, also known as the Green Line.
The Sinai War (October 1956) - a military attack on Egypt by Britain, France and Israel, beginning on 29 October 1956, with the intention to occupy the Sinai Peninsula and to take over the Suez Canal. The attack followed Egypt's decision of 26 July 1956 to nationalize the Suez Canal after the withdrawal of an offer by Britain and the United States to fund the building of the Aswan Dam.
Six-Day War (June 1967) - fought between Israel and Arab neighbors Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The nations of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Algeria also contributed troops and arms to the Arab forces. Following the war, the territory held by Israel expanded significantly ("The Purple Line") : The West Bank (including East Jerusalem), Golan Heights, Sinai and Gaza were occupied from Jordan, Syria and Egypt, respectively.
War of Attrition (1968-1970) - a limited war fought between the Israeli military and forces of the Egyptian Republic, the USSR and the Palestine Liberation Organization from 1967 to 1970. It was initiated by the Egyptians as a way of recapturing the Sinai from the Israelis, who had been in control of the territory since the mid-1967 Six-Day War. The hostilities ended with a ceasefire signed between the countries in 1970 with frontiers remaining in the same place as when the war began.
Yom Kippur War (October 1973) - fought from October 6 to October 26, 1973 by a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria against Israel as a way of recapturing part of the territories which they lost to the Israelis back in the Six-Day War. The war began with a surprise joint attack by Egypt and Syria on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Egypt and Syria crossed the cease-fire lines in the Sinai and Golan Heights, respectively. Eventually Arab forces were defeated by Israel and there were no significant territorial changes.
First Lebanon War (1982) - began in 6 June 1982, when the Israel Defense Forces invaded southern Lebanon. The Government of Israel ordered the invasion as a response to the assassination attempt against Israel's ambassador to the United Kingdom, Shlomo Argov, by the Abu Nidal Organization and due to the constant terror attacks on northern Israel made by the Palestinian guerilla organizations which resided in Lebanon. See also Operation Litani.
Second Lebanon War (summer 2006) - began as a military operation in response to the abduction of two Israeli reserve soldiers by the Hezbollah. The operation gradually strengthened, to become a wider confrontation. The principal participants were Hezbollah paramilitary forces and the Israeli military. The conflict started on 12 July 2006 and continued until a United Nations-brokered ceasefire went into effect on 14 August 2006, though it formally ended on 8 September 2006, when Israel lifted its naval blockade of Lebanon..
R-MONEY$$$
02.06.2010, 11:20
y dont the rest of the countries in the area that r tired of israels shit get together and do something about it? i dont think 1 if their neighbors are happy with them, so do something about it, and hopefully america wont step in and let israel get bitch slapped like it needs to. they r like a women running around saying wild shit acting like no1 will ever say shit since they got a big juice head BF(the US), then some random ass person smacks the bitch up while the BF does nothing becuase he knows the hoe deserved it. Thats what needs to happen with israel
u r rite. isreal is just like a silly hoe that everyone is trying to rape and the us is that d-bag that is lyke "okay guys no rape". lyke if everyone wants to rape that hoe just let them rape that hoe with out the us trying to stop the rape. US is a serious hater in the rape game of all the drunk tools surrounding the isreal. more like isfake amirite?
greg is cool
02.06.2010, 11:37
u r rite. isreal is just like a silly hoe that everyone is trying to rape and the us is that d-bag that is lyke "okay guys no rape". lyke if everyone wants to rape that hoe just let them rape that hoe with out the us trying to stop the rape. US is a serious hater in the rape game of all the drunk tools surrounding the isreal. more like isfake amirite?
negative ghost rider. no one wants to "rape them", just slap a bitch for being the loud annoying cunt that she is with out fear of her meat head boy friend with his billion dollar army toys coming to kill them soon after. do u not think that if egypt, iran, syria, jordan, lebanon all got together they couldnt shut that cunt up? america needs a good slapping too, but as long as were the biggest POS in the room, no1 will try such a thing, maybe another attempt at kicking us in the shin, but nothing else.
R-MONEY$$$
02.06.2010, 11:39
negative ghost rider. no one wants to "rape them", just slap a bitch for being the loud annoying cunt that she is with out fear of her meat head boy friend with his billion dollar army toys coming to kill them soon after. do u not think that if egypt, iran, syria, jordan, lebanon all got together they couldnt shut that cunt up? america needs a good slapping too, but as long as were the biggest POS in the room, no1 will try such a thing, maybe another attempt at kicking us in the shin, but nothing else.
u r rite, I look at it lyke this. If isreal doesn't want to get rapped den y she dress like hoe bag?
greg is cool
02.06.2010, 11:53
u r rite, I look at it lyke this. If isreal doesn't want to get rapped den y she dress like hoe bag?
im just lazy, i never purposely misspell words such as "lyke, rite rapped". I know how to spell, i just dont take the time to write out "r u ur one".
but back to israel acting like an asshole. let me explain it to u. israel is the asshole in this story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aYtHDlAkN0
bom the israeli
02.06.2010, 11:59
y dont the rest of the countries in the area that r tired of israels shit get together and do something about it? i dont think 1 if their neighbors are happy with them, so do something about it, and hopefully america wont step in and let israel get bitch slapped like it needs to. they r like a women running around saying wild shit acting like no1 will ever say shit since they got a big juice head BF(the US), then some random ass person smacks the bitch up while the BF does nothing becuase he knows the hoe deserved it. Thats what needs to happen with israel
:lol:
I've been reading more about this as the details start to come out. While I think the use of lethal force was wrong, It sounding like this was provoked by the activist. Its a crappy situations, Israel shouldn't have waited till the boats were out of international water but I'm not seeing the series of events as their fault. That is my opinion thus far.
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