What if Sunshine bought XSJADO?

[Muppet4Eternity]

Xsjemz?

[Monday]

Purple Farmer IIs

[formerly galenaskater]

same shitty 2 shell sizes but they'd had new color straps come out every 6 weeks instead of 4 months

[sbchugo]

what if salomon re buy xsjado :)
seriously xsjado are pretty shitty right now compare to the real old xsjaLomon.

[Monday]

The ones available right now are the best Xsjados ever.

[oldskizzle]

The ones available right now are the best Xsjados ever.

i beg to differ

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

nurple xsjadows!!!!!!!

[Metric Fuck-Ton]

I can tell you one thing. Farmer would be chillin'.

[sbchugo]

you never roll some real xsjado made by salomon for saying this;
the conference xsjado are super shitty: the plastic got too many flex that you could fucked up your ankle, all of the hardware suck, the strap are shitty too and the footwrap horrible and the color are pretty gay too.
Now I understand why we got some pretty bad quality sk8 because guys like you love the shitty product we have right now. Don t ask about any improvements , Conference just have to make some gay colors parts and you ll be happy. It s SAD four our sports.
Support the shitty skate we have right now; it s now all about the hype.. and you have Cozmo wheels in your sig !!! Pretty strange way of think

[Teh Nap]

you know what...it is sad four our sports

[Matthew Shannon]

they would change the name to shadow. and give them jug liners.

[Matthew Shannon]

you never roll some real xsjado made by salomon for saying this;
the conference xsjado are super shitty: the plastic got too many flex that you could fucked up your ankle, all of the hardware suck, the strap are shitty too and the footwrap horrible and the color are pretty gay too.
Now I understand why we got some pretty bad quality sk8 because guys like you love the shitty product we have right now. Don t ask about any improvements , Conference just have to make some gay colors parts and you ll be happy. It s SAD four our sports.
Support the shitty skate we have right now; it s now all about the hype.. and you have Cozmo wheels in your sig !!! Pretty strange way of think


Wat nativ lanuage is you spek?

[sbchugo]

i m french sorry I don t have a perfect english at all!
I m Valobrand on amall and manulocusbordeaux on rollernews!

[chefkoch]

The cuff of my salomon made Xsjados broke, so what exactly is soooo good about them? :roll:

[Matthew Shannon]

i m french sorry I don t have a perfect english at all!
I m Valobrand on amall and manulocusbordeaux on rollernews!

Explains everything... Le Fag.

Tu eh ah nana fu

[sbchugo]

The cuff of my salomon made Xsjados broke, so what exactly is soooo good about them? :roll:

Farmer1 for sure. most of those cuff have broke.

[sbchugo]

Explains everything... Le Fag.

Tu eh ah nana fu

what s the problem?? I try to make my best to explain me on english forum. Could you speak french as I speak english??? I m not sure about that

[Monday]

The cuffs could be stiffer, that's right. But were they stiffer when Salomon made them? The soulplates could be faster, too. But weren't they as slow when Salomon produced them?

Oh, and you've probably never skated the old Xsjados if you really think the straps were better on them. The velcro was shit and they fell apart quickly when you bailed on concrete. Footwraps is a different story. The current ones are of superior quality then any ever made. The Latimer had the best fit, but the follow ups by Salomon weren't better then the current ones. They shure looked better, but that's personal peference.

The Stockwell 2010s look shite, but the Schwabs are the best looking Xsjados ever made. Again, personal preference.

[sbchugo]

The cuffs could be stiffer, that's right. But were they stiffer when Salomon made them? The soulplates could be faster, too. But weren't they as slow when Salomon produced them?

Oh, and you've probably never skated the old Xsjados if you really think the straps were better on them. The velcro was shit and they fell apart quickly when you bailed on concrete. Footwraps is a different story. The current ones are of superior quality then any ever made. The Latimer had the best fit, but the follow ups by Salomon weren't better then the current ones. They shure looked better, but that's personal peference.

The Stockwell 2010s look shite, but the Schwabs are the best looking Xsjados ever made. Again, personal preference.

you say all! you talk about the look of the skate. if you skate for the look now I understand. That s why they produce shitty skate right now If you think all is for the look of the skate. And yes when salomon produce the first xsjado the cuff were more stiff. More stiff mean more durable.
anyway you roll for the style and the look of the skate so don t complain if the quality is shitty.

[MyGlockGoPopPopPop]

i m french sorry I don t have a perfect english at all!
I m Valobrand on amall and manulocusbordeaux on rollernews!

You speak better English than most of the Americans that post on here.

[Monday]

And yes when salomon produce the first xsjado the cuff were more stiff. More stiff mean more durable.


Harder plastic breaks more easily. My buddies Basic '07 cuffs both broke on him and he skates wilson cuffs ever since with no problem.

And I don't think you understood my post.

[sbchugo]

You speak better English than most of the Americans that post on here.

thanks :)
but i m pretty bored about most of this young noob who skate since 2 or 3 years and fucked up our industry by skating for the style and the look of the skate.
that s why most brand put down the quality of the products.

[Teh Nap]

what s the problem?? I try to make my best to explain me on english forum. Could you speak french as I speak english??? I m not sure about that
that's just what we do on be-mag bro

[jonathan]

Heard recently that Nimh was bought out by sunshine.

So i guess the only skater owned company is Low Life apparently.

[chefkoch]

Farmer1 for sure. most of those cuff have broke.

nope, the first basics

[sbchugo]

nope, the first basics

most of those problem were due to the fact of the weather ; cold weather make them broke easier.
Same with the old non ufs 50/fifty frame who snap so easy when it s winter time.

[fast eddie]

Heard recently that Nimh was bought out by sunshine.


WAT

give us your source. or your sores, either way.

[jonathan]

WAT

give us your source. or your sores, either way.

Source is unreliable. But I trust it.

[salomonskater]

If Sunshine brought Xsjados, the latter wouldn't have no ankle support AT ALL. Razors cuffs are the most unsupportive cuffs I have ever tried. They don't lock like Roces/Valo or Salomon cuffs, they just "close".

[Metric Fuck-Ton]

This is becoming a pro corporate rollerblading thread. Seems like the big guys built em right.

[Matthew Shannon]

most of those problem were due to the fact of the weather ; cold weather make them broke easier.
Same with the old non ufs 50/fifty frame who snap so easy when it s winter time.

every time I read your posts now.. i read them in a really thick french accent

[sbchugo]

every time I read your posts now.. i read them in a really thick french accent

I m happy to give you some fun in your life.

[Matthew Shannon]

I m happy to give you some fun in your life.

+1 rep.

[sbchugo]

:)

[formerly galenaskater]

sweet, i would be able to get replacement parts for a skate i can only ride properly backwards, and can't grind with

fucking sweet

[KalleGrabowski]

Brazils Homie kanye would rock some purple Footwraps

[al dolega]

The plastics are exactly the same now as they were from Salomon, save for the souls which are a little harder now, to make them faster.

The soft parts of the skates (straps, padding, etc) were definitely below par for the first two years of Powerslide, but I would say that they are now on par or even better in certain ways (longer top straps with better velcro, Schwab cuff padding is really nice, ringholder comes with two screws).

This idea that the Salomon-produced Xsjados were so perfect and trouble-free is just the hyper-nostalgia that rollerbladers love to apply to everything more than five years old. Every pair of my Salo Xsjados had the ring-twist problem, and so did many of the pairs we sold at Octona; eventually I just started fixing it on all the pairs we got in. We warrantied at least a dozen pairs of cuffs to Salomon and later Trendkiller, and we gave away probably another 3-4 pairs off of old skates we had.

The skate was not and is not perfect. Powerslide's start with the skate was indeed a bit rough, but they have done a good job of catching up. They've kept and expanded the team, kept placing ads, kept sponsoring events. They're already working on a completely new boot. Even if Salomon had never been sold and never axed inline, they almost surely wouldn't be doing any of those things with Xsjado.

[sbchugo]

ok you re allright conference make those skate better than salomon... In fact it s pretty normal Conference make some improvements because they work on it since long time.Salomon only produce the 1st generation and the DL 2. I ll be curious to ask to farmer or stockwell or latimer wich one they prefer. I m not nostalgic about salomon it s just every company have been beat by the crisis and all the plastic are pretty shitty right now.

Sorry but they re is a big difference in skate made in china and skate made in romania of in the french factory.

[formerly galenaskater]

Heard recently that Nimh was bought out by sunshine.

So i guess the only skater owned company is Low Life apparently.

I think its safe to assume that sunshine owned them all along

I like my nimh skates more then any other I've had over the last 14 years
I don't care who owns or distrubutes them, i'll continue to buy them
but i have a feeling that sunshine owned them silently all along

I just don't see how somebody with such humble means could afford all to get these molds/patterns etc etc

i'm probably wrong

[Monday]

[…] it s just every company have been beat by the crisis and all the plastic are pretty shitty right now.

Sorry but they re is a big difference in skate made in china and skate made in romania of in the french factory.

Both of these statements are wrong. The first batch of Chine made Powerslide Xsjados were shit, but now they are really good. And still made in China. By a different manufacturer apparently.

[al dolega]

Yea, well, Romania or France are just not going to happen. Salomon doesn't even make their stuff there anymore! It was moved to China a few years ago. Sunshine's stuff has always been made in China too.

Even Bont, a high-end Australian speed skate company, that sells completely custom carbon-fiber race skates that can sell for over a grand, moved production to China a year or two ago.

At this point, lamenting Chinese production is just silly, because pretty much everyone has had to do it. Getting things made anywhere else for our type of market is pretty impractical. And just because a skate is made in China doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be low-quality; they are perfectly capable of producing high-quality stuff.

[Monday]

Oxygen manufactured in Austria. Get yourself a nice pair of Argons, Hugo... ;)

[brett dasovic]

The plastics are exactly the same now as they were from Salomon, save for the souls which are a little harder now, to make them faster.

The soft parts of the skates (straps, padding, etc) were definitely below par for the first two years of Powerslide, but I would say that they are now on par or even better in certain ways (longer top straps with better velcro, Schwab cuff padding is really nice, ringholder comes with two screws).

This idea that the Salomon-produced Xsjados were so perfect and trouble-free is just the hyper-nostalgia that rollerbladers love to apply to everything more than five years old. Every pair of my Salo Xsjados had the ring-twist problem, and so did many of the pairs we sold at Octona; eventually I just started fixing it on all the pairs we got in. We warrantied at least a dozen pairs of cuffs to Salomon and later Trendkiller, and we gave away probably another 3-4 pairs off of old skates we had.

The skate was not and is not perfect. Powerslide's start with the skate was indeed a bit rough, but they have done a good job of catching up. They've kept and expanded the team, kept placing ads, kept sponsoring events. They're already working on a completely new boot. Even if Salomon had never been sold and never axed inline, they almost surely wouldn't be doing any of those things with Xsjado.

It never gets old to read an entire skate debate post and then have Al jump in and put everyone in their place! haha.

[salomonskater]

Oxygen manufactured in Austria. Get yourself a nice pair of Argons, Hugo... ;)

Astrian products are such a nice quality. I had a Grundig television, I pissed on it when I was a baby and it still worked.

[chefkoch]

Astrian products are such a nice quality. I had a Grundig television, I pissed on it when I was a baby and it still worked.

well grundig is from Germany, and yes our products do have a nice quality :-P

[empw]

Who the fuck is Sunshine.

[macon deals]

Who the fuck is Sunshine.

distribution center/part owner of a couple of boot companies/frame/ other shit.

[Monday]

Heard recently that Nimh was bought out by sunshine.

So i guess the only skater owned company is Low Life apparently.
Make a post about it. Should be fun.

[dyyylan]

i m french sorry I don t have a perfect english at all!
I m Valobrand on amall and manulocusbordeaux on rollernews!

oh, you're the guy that stole peoples shit on amall. nice!

[Monday]

I bet he didn't. You probably mistake the name.

[formerly galenaskater]

Oxygen manufactured in Austria. Get yourself a nice pair of Argons, Hugo... ;)

350 american dollars for a pair of boots 15 years ago

AND YOU WONDER WHY EVERYBODY MOVED PRODUCTION TO CHINALAND :)

[:(]

how much would it cost to buy the salomon mold? i remember al answering it in a charlie hustles post awhile ago

[Special ED]

i m french sorry I don t have a perfect english at all!
I m Valobrand on amall and manulocusbordeaux on rollernews!

Thanks for deducting reputation from this user.

[al dolega]

how much would it cost to buy the salomon mold? i remember al answering it in a charlie hustles post awhile ago

No you don't, because I don't know. I believe what I posted was that there's a good chance that it's not even up for sale.

[:(]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1999_April_1/ai_54268448/
an interesting little tidbit about the two corporate giants in blading fucking each other over

[Matthew Shannon]

No you don't, because I don't know. I believe what I posted was that there's a good chance that it's not even up for sale.

Nope. the answer is One Ton Crack.

[Special ED]

don't you piss down my back and tell me it's raining, dolega.

[:(]

god i wish salomon would come back. i'm about to send a pair of feinbergs to justinthursday and he's going to send them back with white carbon souls and white featherlite frames.
omg can't wait

[salomonskater]

I don't understand why people skate Salomon. Valo 4 Life brah


god i wish salomon would come back. i'm about to send a pair of feinbergs to justinthursday and he's going to send them back with white carbon souls and white featherlite frames.
omg can't wait
.

[:(]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/guacomolamang/I3010234.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/guacomolamang/IMG_1756.jpg
dude i never implied that ever. salomons were my shit until i realized that i would soon royale through the boot with no confirmed means of acquiring more and no proper replaceable backslide system. too lazy to do night souls and razors backslides. skeptical about usd 2 piece. eh about razors souls. but carbon souls seem perfect and i'm tired of high-heeled skates. shit if i had to i would put valo skins on salomon boots

[Matthew Shannon]

I have been searching desperately for a salomon in my size on ebay... found one for fifty bucks... just need to save up the money within two weeks.

[Metric Fuck-Ton]

shit if i had to i would put valo skins on salomon boots

BARF!

[sbchugo]

oh, you're the guy that stole peoples shit on amall. nice!
no I m not I m from france do you think anyone on amall would like to deal with a guy from france???
the guy who stole people is valobranded or else like that.

http://www.be-mag.com/msgboard/showthread.php/25102-DO-NOT-BUY-LIST
valo bander from tennessee.
Tennessee is in france ???
no I don t think so , please before say something wrong, especially when it s someone who is unlegit, use your brain before say bullshit

[Muppet4Eternity]

Do you guys realise this was started as a joke?
In the same vane as the I am going to be, and the ____ptions threads.

[Monday]

There is no such thing as joking when discussing about blading technologies...

[chefkoch]

i'm about to send a pair of feinbergs to justinthursday and he's going to send them back with white carbon souls and white featherlite frames.
dude, you can't do that by yourself? it's not that hard