Verizon iPhone

[UnknownPleasures]

Engadget's live blog of the Verizon iPhone event (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/11/live-from-verizons-iphone-event/)

Announced tomorrow, available before Valentines Day.

Anyone interested/going to pick one up?

If it has LTE, I think I'm bout it.

[DnEhThEnD]

it's still an iphone

[UnknownPleasures]

it's still an iphone

If the newest lines of Android phones didn't bore the shit out of me, then I wouldn't even be remotely interested.

Yeah, its an iPhone but the huge developer support it has is the only thing that makes me want to go back.

All it needs is a good GPS app or better/Android equivalent Google Maps.

[Monday]

it's still an iphone
Thank god!

[Devon Avant]

Love my droid x. But it's always nice to have options. And now iphone snobs can kiss their exclusivity goodbye. Damn snobby bitches.

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

announcement when?

[erautour]

Rumor is the announcement is this TUESDAY. Obviously a lie since we all know announcements are made on Monday.

[CL347BV]

won't be LTE.

[CL347BV]

Rumor is the announcement is this TUESDAY. Obviously a lie since we all know announcements are made on Monday.

there will be announcement on 1-11-11 at 11am

[UnknownPleasures]

won't be LTE.

You're probably right, but I almost feel like Verizon wouldn't let them create one that was not since that is their huge push with smartphones right now after CES.

If this is just a CDMA iPhone 4, then I am almost sure the iPhone 5 will be CDMA/LTE compatible.

[MyGlockGoPopPopPop]

I will probably be getting one, I am due for an upgrade and I definitely intend to step up to a smart phone. Also, I hate every android phone available with Verizon right now. I love the Android OS I just don't like the selection of smart phones currently available on the market.

[dyyylan]

I'm due for an upgrade too, as of december. My droid is getting super sluggish compared to the newer android phones, idk if I want to just get whatever verizon calls the Evo or if i want to pick up a new iphone when it comes out :( :(

[UnknownPleasures]

IMO, the Incredible is the best Android phone Verizon has.

Was when it first came out and still is. Best screen and camera of any phone they got.

This will change with the iPhone however. The camera is amazing.

[Garett]

So only one company has had complete monopoly on iphones in the states? That's pretty fucking shitty. You can get an iphone at pretty much every single mobile phone provider over here, there's like 7 or 8 of them.

This new iphone supposed to be different than the iphone 4? I love mine, seriously I don't see how anyone could not like the iphone.

[Ozzie Sandoval]

For 5 years I have been with AT&T not once did getting an iPhone cross my mind.
So many better android phones. Plus the support and developers behind android is HUGE.

However I will give the iPhone 1 thing... quality, the metal on the side and the build quality is really well made.
However, I will not trade my Galaxy S for it.

[MyGlockGoPopPopPop]

So only one company has had complete monopoly on iphones in the states? That's pretty fucking shitty. You can get an iphone at pretty much every single mobile phone provider over here, there's like 7 or 8 of them.

This new iphone supposed to be different than the iphone 4? I love mine, seriously I don't see how anyone could not like the iphone.
AT&T has had an exclusive contract with Apple since the first iphone was released, even though Verizon is the largest (and best imo) provider in the nation.

[UnknownPleasures]

So many better android phones.

Not really...

Software and software feautre wise, yes.

There still isn't a phone (on the market) that has a more powerful CPU and GPU (performance wise) set than the iPhone 4.

The Galaxy S line comes close, but TouchWiz fucked that all up.

[*crooked*]

if the touch screen is just as good as the att one and has the same features i will get it

[Ozzie Sandoval]

Not really...

Software and software feautre wise, yes.

There still isn't a phone (on the market) that has a more powerful CPU and GPU (performance wise) set than the iPhone 4.

The Galaxy S line comes close, but TouchWiz fucked that all up.

What are you talking about both the Galaxy S and the Iphone 4 use a4 and a8processor. They are the same exact thing. They are both modified a8's, CPU are the same. The difference is the GPU, and in this case Galaxy S and iPhone both have intergreated GPU's (from what I know of, don't know much about the Iphone). However they are not disclosed as far as I know. I have seen benchmarks for the galaxy S but none for the iPhone.

Now if we talk about the Nexus S, it has it's own deticated GPU, and that is something else.

Basically they both have licenses to use ARM. Which means they both overclock/ implement ideas to gain more power. They are the same chip, a modified a8.

touchwizz is just an interface. I personally like it, however I have rooted my phone and can flash it if need be to gingerbread. Just like the iPhone can be broken into to use facetime away from wifi.

[UnknownPleasures]

What are you talking about both the Galaxy S and the Iphone 4 use a4 and a8processor. They are the same exact thing. They are both modified a8's, CPU are the same. The difference is the GPU, and in this case Galaxy S and iPhone both have intergreated GPU's. However they are not disclosed as far as I know. I have seen benchmarks for the galaxy S but none for the iPhone.

Now if we talk about the Nexus S, it has it's own deticated GPU, and that is something else.

Basically they both have licenses to use ARM. Which means they both overclock/ implement ideas to gain more power. They are the same chip.

touchwizz is just an interface. I personally like it, however I have rooted my phone and can flash it if need be to gingerbread. Just like the iPhone can be broken into to use facetime away from wifi.

I knowz all of this.

What I was saying is, out of the box, the GS series is a lag fest. Not so much after you root/flash a rom.

Believe me, I have many hours logged on XDA. First was with a Vibrant, now with a DInc.

[Ozzie Sandoval]

lag fest?
I have a rooted captivate
and a none rooted captivate
the non-rooted is my daily driver, I have not expereinced any lag.

And if you knew all of this why did you state the faster cpu when it is not so?

*edit, I hate apple, but I do want to see the iPhone come to verizon. I want to see what it will do. Better service, Better data plan (besides grandfathered). However, the CMDA thing is a let down, I prefer GSM. Also the LTE would be great to have on any phone.

[UnknownPleasures]

I said faster "performance" wise, not spec wise.

The "lag fest" is because Samsung used a proprietary file extension/partition (their own) that is different than the native Android one.

Google (insert captivate, vibrant, fascinate name here) lag fix and you'll know what I mean.

[Ozzie Sandoval]

yeah, I remember that. Not everyone is perfect, hence the iPhone's antenna.
However, Enough of the android vs iPhone (that's all there is on engadget's comments)

Like I said before, I do not like Apple, however, I do want to see it reach out to Verizon as well. I wonder if AT&T sales will drop this year?

[UnknownPleasures]

I like both, I use Android right now.

I was just disappointed with all the new devices released at CES and might go back to the iPhone.

Motorola is just so...bleh. Dual core is nice but fuck a locked bootloader.

[:bran^don:]

wtf are you assholes talking about. shut the fuck up with all this cellphone techno speech.

[Otacon_EXE]

I knew a kid. He got an Iphone. He was like, "Dude, the apps and shit on this are sick!"
He put a lightsaber app. It just shows a beam of light and does the "p-shown" sound.
Stupid as hell.

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

wtf are you assholes talking about. shut the fuck up with all this cellphone techno speech.

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv115/preeto_f173/zach-morris-phone-ab061510.jpg

[CL347BV]

I knowz all of this.

What I was saying is, out of the box, the GS series is a lag fest. Not so much after you root/flash a rom.

Believe me, I have many hours logged on XDA. First was with a Vibrant, now with a DInc.

I like Android OS quite a bit, but feel it lacks in fit and finish, Web OS is amazing for multi tasking and homebrew support, blackberry just works, but has a shit browser, and I wish I could overclock my blackberry storm 2 to 1ghz like my Pre Plus is, and I was noobing it up on xda in the days before 3g, with samsung I700s and the like.

[UnknownPleasures]

Seriously think its in the worlds water that every subsequent iPhone/Android post turns into a battle.

[CL347BV]

I like em both, and if the iphone does in fact get realeased for VZW, I'll order one.

[UnknownPleasures]

I'm going to be tempted but have a feeling I'll be waiting until the summer.

[Rotgut]

wtf are you assholes talking about. shut the fuck up with all this cellphone techno speech.

I'm with you. I haven't understood half of the shit in this thread. My phone makes calls, sends texts/pictures, and gets on the Internet. I'm satisfied.

[UnknownPleasures]

I just want words with friends back!

[Rotgut]

Chess with friends>words

[Krish]

I'm with you. I haven't understood half of the shit in this thread. My phone makes calls, sends texts/pictures, and gets on the Internet. I'm satisfied.

I don't even have a smartphone.. but I play with my iPod touch a lot. It's fun

[gambiacrumember]

ITT: Cellphone nerds.

[Ozzie Sandoval]

It's not that I am a cell phone nerd, I just like technology. I am not half as smart as the people out there, (compared to XDA , I am a noob, frontside on a curb noob) but I research almost anything electrical before I buy, CPU's, routers, cell phones, mp3 players, tv's, etc.
Computers and cell phones just happen to be something I research more than others.

[MyGlockGoPopPopPop]

It is official!

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/iphone.jsp

Hella Stoked.

[UnknownPleasures]

YAWN.

Guess I'm waiting til July.

[TaylorMonnig]

Verizon iphone is lame.. cant even be on the internet and talk on the phone at the same time.. there network is way slower than at&t.
Tmobile mytouch 4g and windows 7phone FTW!

[Ozzie Sandoval]

Verizon iphone is lame.. cant even be on the internet and talk on the phone at the same time.. there network is way slower than at&t.
Tmobile mytouch 4g and windows 7phone FTW!

True. You have to stop one before using the other. However, I heard Verizon will try to go GSM soon becuase of this, also their 4g is about the same speed as AT&T 3g, from what I read. However, it gives people more choice.

[Krish]

True. You have to stop one before using the other. However, I heard Verizon will try to go GSM soon becuase of this, also their 4g is about the same speed as AT&T 3g, from what I read. However, it gives people more choice.
but you have to ask yourself, how often do you need to use the internet during a phone call?
I think people will be fine sacrificing that feature if it means better 3G coverage

[norILroller]

usually don't give much of a shit about cell phones as long as they make calls, but since my ipod was stolen, i need a digital camera and im due for an upgrade i might consider this.

[r.s.]

For 5 years I have been with AT&T not once did getting an iPhone cross my mind.
So many better android phones. Plus the support and developers behind android is HUGE.

However I will give the iPhone 1 thing... quality, the metal on the side and the build quality is really well made.
However, I will not trade my Galaxy S for it.

that phone blows dicks compared to any iphone, not just the iphone 4. My brother got it, its a fucking joke in comparison.

[UnknownPleasures]

True. You have to stop one before using the other. However, I heard Verizon will try to go GSM soon becuase of this, also their 4g is about the same speed as AT&T 3g, from what I read. However, it gives people more choice.

No way.

AT&T 3G tops out around 4-5Mbps, Verizon LTE is getting between 10-20Mbps right now.

Verizon is not going GSM, its transferring to LTE which will be LTE data and CDMA voice for now, then transfer to be both. So when the next iPhone is announced, I am willing to bet it will be LTE capable which means you can do voice+data as long as you're on a LTE connection.

[UnknownPleasures]

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/verizon-lte-4g-preview-with-the-lg-vl600-modem/

[macon deals]

looks like there probably won't be unlimited data plans/ or even if you already have an unlimited, they won't let you roll over



New 2 year activation
and data pak required.

[Ozzie Sandoval]

that phone blows dicks compared to any iphone, not just the iphone 4. My brother got it, its a fucking joke in comparison.

All major reviews online compare it very close to the iPhone 4. Please explain yourself how you and your brother think it blows? You must know something that these reviewers are missing???...


No way.

AT&T 3G tops out around 4-5Mbps, Verizon LTE is getting between 10-20Mbps right now.

Verizon is not going GSM, its transferring to LTE which will be LTE data and CDMA voice for now, then transfer to be both. So when the next iPhone is announced, I am willing to bet it will be LTE capable which means you can do voice+data as long as you're on a LTE connection.

When I meant speed I wasn't thinking of network adapter/ modem/ computer speed. I forgot where I read the GSM thing. I was referring more to cell phone data plans. I agree though LTE would be great. 10/4 download upload is very good, considering you are on the road. At work I get 10/1.

For wireless I just use airsniff to get a wifi passcode, even if your wifi is protected ;)

[r.s.]

All major reviews online compare it very close to the iPhone 4. Please explain yourself how you and your brother think it blows? You must know something that these reviewers are missing???...

Its not an iphone.

[DnEhThEnD]

no keyboard no dice

[gen2roller]

Alltel is switching to AT&T early february, and my iPhone 4 should be arriving just after that. :D

[I shit prostate blood]

Sounds like I'm moving over to verizon. My 2 year contract is up for t-mobile next week. I think I can go a whole month without a phone.

[Ozzie Sandoval]

Its not an iphone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

[I shit prostate blood]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

Rob brings up a very valid point. It's not an iphone.

[r.s.]

haha it is in fact, not an iphone. You wouldnt know what I mean unless you've owned both.

[I shit prostate blood]

I'm jumping on this bandwagon next month!!!

[Ozzie Sandoval]

I have the touch and have had the iPhone 3gs and 4 for a week, no goal.

[UnknownPleasures]

I love that EVO video.

Here:

http://blackmanx.wordpress.com/2011/01/02/wimax-vs-tmobile-4g-vs-lte-and-how-it-affects-joe-the-plumber/

Link explains Sprint WiMax vs TMobile "4G" and Verizon LTE 4G.

FYI ATT and Verizon will be using the same 700Mhz frequency for LTE so a LTE phone will work on both the Verizon and ATT LTE network.

[Robert1]

I want an iPhone on Virgin Mobile.

[Dr. Zaius]

I wantz this for bus tracker.

[gen2roller]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2OfQdYrHRs

[k1029]

The functionality won't be the same. I don't think you can run apps while having a conversation. I would wait until Verizon has had the phone at least 6 months to work shit out.

[DnEhThEnD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2OfQdYrHRs

glorified version of the OCR software most scanners come with, oh joy

[Rotgut]

The functionality won't be the same. I don't think you can run apps while having a conversation. I would wait until Verizon has had the phone at least 6 months to work shit out.

Have you been lurking this entire time since the 'incident'?

[r.s.]

Have you been lurking this entire time since the 'incident'?

that was the best incident since the dizzy rape i think.

[UnknownPleasures]

The functionality won't be the same. I don't think you can run apps while having a conversation. I would wait until Verizon has had the phone at least 6 months to work shit out.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[jamie murrett]

Someone posted that you wont be able to go on the internet while on the phone (which I could live with) but does that also mean if you are on the internet you won't be able to get an incoming phone call?

Sorry for the "dumb" question, I was planning on switching to AT&T since my Verizon contract recently ended but don't want to if I don't have to.

[Krish]

Someone posted that you wont be able to go on the internet while on the phone (which I could live with) but does that also mean if you are on the internet you won't be able to get an incoming phone call?

Sorry for the "dumb" question, I was planning on switching to AT&T since my Verizon contract recently ended but don't want to if I don't have to.
If memory serves me it just kicks you off the internet if you get a call. Might have to double-check that

[UnknownPleasures]

It will boot your internet connection when you get a call.

It will never block you from getting calls.

When you get SMS/E-mail when on a call, it will come in automatically when you end a call.

Also, you can run any app when on a call for the most part, it just won't be able to access the internet.

This is the case for ANY PHONE ON SPRINT/VERIZON/METRO PCS.

[I shit prostate blood]

It will boot your internet connection when you get a call.

It will never block you from getting calls.

When you get SMS/E-mail when on a call, it will come in automatically when you end a call.

Also, you can run any app when on a call for the most part, it just won't be able to access the internet.

This is the case for ANY PHONE ON SPRINT/VERIZON/METRO PCS.

I don't understand how that's a problem.


How much is a average plan for verizon's data thing? Like the cheapest you get can get?

[HOSS]

Tethering sounds cool, only because i gots an ipad though... Prob wont get one until i have lots of monéy, since i. Dont have a data plan.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

buy a blackberry you fags

[m.m.lunatic]

Sounds like I'm moving over to verizon. My 2 year contract is up for t-mobile next week. I think I can go a whole month without a phone.

Or you could just go month to month with t mobile. I had sprint like this for a year after my two year contract was up. Just plan it so you cancel your plan right before the end of a billing cycle cause they'll still make you pay for a whole month if your only two days into a new cycle when you cancel.

[UnknownPleasures]

I don't understand how that's a problem.


How much is a average plan for verizon's data thing? Like the cheapest you get can get?

I believe its $15 for 200MB and $30 for "Unlimited" = 5GB then a slowed connection there after.

[k1029]

Have you been lurking this entire time since the 'incident'?

not really....work blocked the be mag website, and I rarely use the computer at home. I just happen to be snowed in this week.

[k1029]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

you won't be able to run apps on your phone...might not be a big deal, but it will suck if you are trying to run GPS or mapquest, etc while someone is giving you an address on the phone. It's just a crock of shit. You should be able to use applications etc while on the phone, but you can't on the verizon network. Also, they won't use the iphone on their 4G network.

[gen2roller]

glorified version of the OCR software most scanners come with, oh joy

WELL I THINK IT'S NEAT

[I shit prostate blood]

I believe its $15 for 200MB and $30 for "Unlimited" = 5GB then a slowed connection there after.

One thing I'm confused about, how do they rate MB by surfing? If i just want to troll be-mag, go on vimeo and what not.. how is that using up MB?

[Ozzie Sandoval]

One thing I'm confused about, how do they rate MB by surfing? If i just want to troll be-mag, go on vimeo and what not.. how is that using up MB?

youre using their network to go to the website. Just like a computer does. How heavy the web page is will decide how much MB you stock up on. For instance. google is very plain, so you wont have to get much info. on the other hand yahoo has flash, tons of photos, etc. you are using their network (data) to gather all that info.

It's just like downloading.
there are apps out there that measure your MB's, however I have yet to use any.

[UnknownPleasures]

you won't be able to run apps on your phone...might not be a big deal, but it will suck if you are trying to run GPS or mapquest, etc while someone is giving you an address on the phone. It's just a crock of shit. You should be able to use applications etc while on the phone, but you can't on the verizon network. Also, they won't use the iphone on their 4G network.

Are you serious?

Running an APP does not always access the Internet. You can't use the INTERNET on a call, you can still use an app.

If I want to play Angry Birds while I'm on the phone, I can.

Also, you can use data while on a call if you are on WiFi.