The Truth Behind Rattail. What really happened.

[rollerboots666]

Rattail started having some problems mid 2010 for sure. It got to the point where the work crew was minimized pretty much down to the owners Jon, Jan, & Brian to run things. Brian after being pretty much the face of the company w/ his skating had to actually start to manage his company & start to sell skate to make shit work or the company would fail. Honestly that was just a bad move because that guy can't sell for shit. I'll give him his skating because he can def does that good.

Other things were being done to raise money to help keep rattail afloat by its owners. This is when shima's plan started to come about w/ the push of his gf. The fact is the company is a solid company w/ 4x4, vicious, & nimh. Nimh was the real money for the distribution. Once numbers were drawn up on how the company could sustain itself & make a huge profit this is when the greed started to form. Knowing this could all be possible taken by him if done right a plan was then made. It’s the small things that take place that are done that you don't realize till the end that matter.
So shortly after things at rattail started getting tight the idea Jon, Brian, & Jan came up w/ was to focus their attention on Nimh because it was the money maker of the distribution. If Nimh could rise up again & sell well it would bring 4x4 & Vicious up as well. A new sales person also came into the office to help push the company & drive new sales. Shima at this time decided his plan was he had wanted to move to SF. The problem w/ that was he wanted to bring Nimh w/ him, but he didn't really want to leave any of his company behind. This is when shit started to go bad.

One major thing that separated the 3 owners from their work was shima's gf. Jon & Jan could not stand to be around someone that just waltz into the office & would makes demands to Jon & Jan. She came in like she was this long time rollerblader chick that knew the industry but didn't know shit & didn't even rollerblade. Brian also forgot to mention to his gf that Jon & Jan were also the owners as well. She figured that this was all Brian’s empire. HAHAHA. The second she found out that there were a total of 3 business partners his attitude changed. But the problem was still her. Brian also felt the need to bring her into the office all the time regardless if the others couldn't stand her. This made the others not want to be there & work outside from the rest. But w/ a new sales rep there as a neutral party, shit could still get done.

Things seem to get better w/ the new sales guys pushing for new accounts & selling tons of skates. After shit was getting done this is when the realization that shima was a shitty business man was seen. You can't sell a company because you’re "Brian Shima". I know some of you will disagree, but do you think the buyers @ dicks or play it again sports or big online sport websites know who Brian shima is. NOPE. They go by numbers & company info. Maybe in 2000 that would have worked. But regardless of the positive outcome, shima had already had a plan that would just wait to be released. The first real attack was really shitty.

With about 50k in V2's in the warehouse something had to been done so new skates could come in. The new sales rep had a great plan to get all the skates sold quickly, but that wouldn't work w/ shima's hidden plan. Instead shima decided it would be better to take the entire inventory rattail had & give to a second party to help distribute for rattail. So he got a U-Haul truck one morning before the Jon & Jan got to the warehouse & took everything. This was done by him w/o everyone agreeing to this. This also meant that no more sales could be made from rattail until the new skates arrived. The answer to this so called action from shima was he was sick of looking at all the old skates & now there out of the way. But the company still didn't have the money for that product until it was sold by the other party. Makes no sense if you think about it. Instead of discounting a great product for more shops to get Nimh into Brian had his own plan. It’s shitty to because it seems Brian could care less about the little shops. Like the mom & pop or core shops that were around.

At this point when our remaining stock was sent to this 2nd party the game plan was to really push the new skates. We still had a lot of the old stock to push so I thought though. Shima’s arrangement w/ the 2nd party as told to Jon, Jan, & I was that the skates are on consignment, but if we sold anything the 2nd party would ship them out for us, basically acting as a distributor for us. At first I thought this was great but I found out shit wasn’t. The second the skates left the warehouse I had already made a bunch of sales. So acting on shima’s agreement w/ the other party I would call them to let them know of the sales. Seems the other party was unaware of this agreement. After trying to make sales & get shit sorted the new agreement w/ this 2nd party was that shima was to handle the orders. I would have to email him the orders made & he would get the product released for the other party. Seemed weird but hey whatever it takes to make Nimh money. But when that wasn’t going right I started to question things. After talking to the owner of this other party the truth final came out. That the agreement w/ shima & them was that the skates were on consignment only & that rattail was not able to sell any of those products or to use them as a distributor. It seemed strange that someone would just let $50k in skates go like that without trying to make that money for themselves. Regardless we moved on worrying about the new skates coming to the warehouse in a few weeks. Around this time is when shima had made it clear that he wanted the company for himself & would do anything to take it. Jon & Jan were shocked that this came about & talked w/ shima to see what could come about & how shit could be resolved.

At this point shit got bad. With no old stock to sell & shima pulling money out of rattail’s account on a weekly to daily event shit dried up fast. The new product was going to be the main source of income to push for the new line to come out in December. What people need to realize about Jon is that as long as Rattail existed he never took any money made w/ that company. Everything he ever did was from GC. Shima would consistently use the money. So as time got closer w/ for the skates to come the guns were drawn & shima drew first blood. He served Jon & Jan w/ papers suing them for Nimh, 4x4, & Vicious. Not Rattail but just the companies. The reason he was doing this was because he wanted the companies & not the debt that came w/ Rattail. He figured that the loans were for Jon & Jan to keep & not him. Not only did this come at them, but someone else got involved w/ things. Shima’s mom started to go after Jon. It seems shima borrowed money from his mom to help Nimh at one point. She felt that Jon should have to pay her back for the loan, not Brian. So with all of this going on the skates finally came in to the warehouse to get money back & hopefully fix things.

With the new skates coming shortly many things were going on at Rattail. First we were trying to figure out WTF was going on with the video. Brian’s answer was that there were problems w/ merging the different video formats & that’s what was taking so long. The footage was done moths before this point mind you. Also Jon, Jan, & Brian were trying to some to a solution on how to work out things with the companies. A great solution was for Shima to take Nimh & Jon & Jan to take 4x4 & Vicious & they go there ways. This would be done after the new skates were gone so the money can be split properly & both can fund there new projects. Other scenarios were being worked out between lawyers to come to a fair agreement.

Soon enough the skates came into the warehouse & it was time to get these things cleared out so shit could be sorted between the owners & the standing of the companies. Unfortunately there was a shortage of the Oli skates that came to the US. The order was for 180 skates which only about half of that came. This cause a huge problem for all the shops that pre-book there skates. After going over the orders & seeing what the inventory was my best solution was to shorten everyone’s orders by a few skates allowing all the shops to get some Oli’s rather than none. Especially because some shops pre-sold skates & both Shima & I promised skates to almost all shops. I had brought up this idea up w/ Jon & Jan as well & the idea was good to make all the shops happy. But when it came time to break the pallets down Shima GF came to the warehouse to “help out”. This forced Jon & Jan to not want to be back in the warehouse because of the conflict she brought to the table with her presence.

After telling Shima what the plan was to do for accommodating all the shops w/ a few Oli’s to please most, he began to argue with me about how the orders were to be done. His main concern was the big shops that ordered a large quantity of skates & they would get what there order was. He felt they spent the most with Nimh & would get priority over the other shops regardless of who had their pre-orders in first. This pissed me off bad. He continued to say he called all the shops & told them of the shortage & how they would not get skates because of the situation. The funny thing about that is when I had called the shops about 30 mins before he got to the office about the shortage, no one had known about this. What a fucking liar. I tried to explain that the smaller shops that are core shops & are what keep things alive in these small town or cities is where we all came from & what keeps rollerblading alive. He didn’t give a fuck. All he saw was how to make the most money from this order & not the business relationships he had with people. After many words exchanged with Brian & his GF (who though she had some power to join in on the conversation), shit really started to hit the fan. Thankful his GF left leaving just Brian & I to sort out the skates.

After opening up skate boxes to check quality control we noticed something had happened w/ the white shamans. We all freaked out, Brian especially. It had looked that possible the whole order of skate might have had to be sent back due to an error w/ manufacturing. Shima became so upset that he ran out off the warehouse & cried his ass off in a park nearby. He spent hours there while Jon & me sorted out the problem & realized that shit was all good. We had a solution & fixed it. It took Jon & me hours & hours, skate by skate to check everything & send shit out. Yep it was Jon & me, not Shima. We busted our asses to make sure people got there orders & things are done right & took care of the small shops as well.

At this point in time getting the skates cleared out so we could bring a Montre skate in for the holidays was a goal regardless of the outcome of the company’s owner turnover. I pushed the white shaman’s everyday to old & new shops all over. This was the only inventory rattail had at the time. Things between Brian, Jon, & Jan seemed to go up & down as the days went. For a while everything seemed to be in limbo. Jon had even confronted Brain about what was going on, especially the shit about Brian's mom suing Jon. Shima’s answer was that she was suing him as well for the money that was borrowed by Brian. HAHA, Brian’s own mom was suing her son. BULLSHIT. He would sit there & say he didn’t know anything & didn’t want to talk or work shit out between friends & business partners. But behind Jon & Jan’s back Brian started to make moves. Shima started to clean the bank account for rattail from all the new skates that came in. It was just shortly after that that Brian went to took all the money, closed the account down & started a new one using him as the only person on the company. He was able to do this being slack & sneaky. Back when Rattail was formed many years again on a drunken night in Jan’s apartment. Brian, Jan, & Jon all did there corporate papers. It was all a joke to them at the time because they were all young. So when they named there places in the company they made Brain Shima – CEO, Jon Elliott – CFO, & Jan Welsh – Secretary. So when Brian went to the bank he was able to convince the bank manager that Jon & Jan were no longer with the company & because he was the CEO he closed the account & reopened a new account as the sole proprietor. Sounds super shady. But if you think about it sounds about right for him. This also made us think about the old inventory that was on “consignment”. Because Rattail never got a check for months & it seems weird that not one skate was sold in that time. But now it would make sense because any agreement made with Brian & this other party could now work better. Brain could now cash any checks that were in his name only for the skates. Things started to unravel fast behind Shima’s plans.

With everything going bad for Rattail, but mostly Jon & Jan personally they still stuck by the company because it’s everything they put into it for their love of rollerblading. But there were only so many things that could be done. We still sold skates to shops hoping things would change, but all was lost within a few days.

Brian waited till it was a Monday to strike a heavy blow. He knew Bedouin was closed this day & no one would be around to go in the shop. I had called Jon that morning to tell him to meet me over there so I could sell some skates. He told me not to worry about it & to take the day off & get on it the next day (Tuesday). Maybe 2 hours after that conversation Jon had to go to the warehouse & talk to the landlord about a rent check that Brian bounced on him. After getting there he noticed something had happened while they were away. Jon immediately called me flipping out. Either early in the morning or late Sunday night after the store front closed, Brian went to the warehouse & loaded up every skate & Rattail product around. This included the business computer, shipping scale, samples, EVERYTHING. He then brought everything over to he’s moms house to store it for the time being. Since this happen Brian has not been around San Diego much. No one as seen him or heard from him. There was a few emails sent to all the shops after the skates disappeared from the warehouse that told all shop owners that Jon & Jan were no longer with Rattail or NIMH, 4x4, or Vicious, & not associate with them. If any shop owners had concerns that there were to contact Brian Shima only for anything. Email signatures from Shima changed from “Brian Shima” to Brian Shima – CEO”. His plan to start his new company was started now. Brian has teamed up with a financial backing partner to help him w/ the funds of his new company. So is Shima Skate Manufacturing a 100% owned company? NO. He will again just be the guy skating around while others do the work on selling his skates.

This story is what has happened over the months of June till holiday time. You can think what you want of what I said but it is all true. I was there to see it & hear it from either Brian, Jon, & Jan. I’ve read emails from Brian, legal letters, & everything else there was to know what the fuck happened. So if you want to support a company that was started with blood money, go for it. Nimh was awesome. Support companies that do well for the community.

[kike mallahan]

tl;dr

[CRF]

Poorly written, I do not know if I should believe you.

[_doesitmatter_]

what a jew.

[rollerboots666]

Poorly written, I do not to if I should believe you.

As well as your's.

I wanted to get this finished in time before winter clash. I could care less on the spelling & grammar. If the fact of what Brian did thats important. I like how everyone seems to be proper on here.

[gen2roller]

There are always two sides to a story bruh

[formerly galenaskater]

$1300

[Grand Galactic Inquisitor]

Who are you?

[s.]

$3000

[rollerboots666]

There is 2 sides to this for sure. But no one really knows any side or at least what really happened. But at least I can say I was there when shit went down & saw things that no one did. I know I am bashing Brian mostly but he did fuck things up & do most of the shit. Plus the guy has the nerve to talk shit on me when all I did was sell them skates & make them money.

[rollerboots666]

Who are you?

I helped out Rattail from June till the fall out. Sales. Plus i've known Brian, Jon, & Jan personal for 12 yrs plus.

[DnEhThEnD]

MLA format plz

[remzcore]

Holy fuck.

[formerly galenaskater]

MLA format plz

APA all day fool

[:bran^don:]

didn't u just do this in like 28 pages?

[bobgross]

I will be posting edited and revised portions of the story for those who cannot stand reading the text as is.
First update:

Rat Tail definitely began having some problems around mid 2010. The problems progressed to the point that the work crew was minimized to the owners: Jon, Jan and Brian. Brian, after playing the role of the face of the company, was forced to start actually managing and selling in order to prevent the company’s failure. That, in my opinion, was a bad move—Shima, though excellent at skating, is a terrible salesman.

Other things were being done in order to raise money to keep Rat Tail afloat. Around this time, Shima, after some encouragement from his girlfriend, put a plan into motion. The fact is that Rat Tail was a solid distribution company with 4x4, Vicious, and Nimh under its belt. Nimh was the real moneymaker for Rat Tail. After some number crunching, courses of action to take in order to sustain Rat Tail began to make themselves clear. It was around this time that Brian got greedy. He realized that the entirety of the company, and the profit that comes along with it, could be his so long as he played his cards right. And so he began planning.

Shortly after things at Rat Tail began to go downhill, Jon, Jan, and Brian decided to focus on Nimh, their main source of profit. If Nimh could get back on its feet and sell well, steps could then be taken to improve 4x4 and Vicious as well. A new salesperson was hired to help push the company and pursue new sales. Shima, at this time, decided that he wanted to move to San Francisco—the problem was, he wanted to bring Nimh along with him. At this point, the situation took a turn for the worst.

[CRF]

I helped out Rattail from June till the fall out. Sales. Plus i've known Brian, Jon, & Jan personal for 12 yrs plus.

Shhh I'm high sorry. I didn't mean to sound rude! I just don't think I want to believe it

[rollerboots666]

didn't u just do this in like 28 pages?

I did it for those that didn't want to go though all the pages. I should have stay on things better & slacked. So its just easier to read it all @ once.

[rollerboots666]

Shhh I'm high sorry. I didn't mean to sound rude! I just don't think I want to believe it

Its all good. I just wanted to let the truth out. People have high regards for Shima. Sucks he would do something like this to his friends & business partners.

[UnknownPleasures]

ONE TON CRACK.

[gygy322]

i'm sure that the non-skater owned powerslide doesn't have problems like this haha

[remzcore]

Oh yeah never mix friends with business

[rollerboots666]

Jon & Brian are both gonna be at winter clash. You should ask them both what happened. Jon is willing to tell anyone.

[gygy322]

PS: i don't care - NIMH's are fuckin terrible, worst overpriced skates ever....

[_doesitmatter_]

NIMH's are fuckin terrible, worst overpriced re-issue of a skate ever....well since valo

this

[norILroller]

WOW. never start a business with friends i guess.

[norILroller]

Oh yeah never mix friends with business

ooops. beat me to it.

[rollerboots666]

Yeah well the start of Rattail happened like 10 years ago or so. All 3 of them were in there early 20's. The rollerblade scene was strong. They didn't think shit would be what it was today & shit to happen the way it did.

[randy lahey]

shima always seemed too into himself, especially after 'shima skate manufacturing'. this doesn't really surprise me

[CRF]

35 pages

[DnEhThEnD]

im not going to lie, i used a text to speech program for that novel, reading is played out

[gambiacrumember]

Can someone summarize? I really don't want to read that wall of text.

[DnEhThEnD]

Can someone summarize? I really don't want to read that wall of text.

shima bad

[rollerboots666]

Can someone summarize? I really don't want to read that wall of text.

Shima is a thief & a great douche. His new company is shit & started from blood money.

[DnEhThEnD]

post pics of said girlfriend

[MITSUBISHI FUJI]

Can somebody make a ragecomic about this story?
No way I'm reading this wall of text..

[marshun]

wow

[randy lahey]

it's worth reading

[CRF]

91 browsing, 64 guests

[nb]

Shima’s mom started to go after Jon.

http://www.gifflix.com/files/4326f39cc6e2.gif

[gambiacrumember]

Shima is a thief & a great douche. His new company is shit & started from blood money.

Now can someone impartial summarise?

[bander_saleh]

it's worth reading

this

[-Fifty50-]

Posting to post

[CRF]

classic internet beef potential

[rollerboots666]

post pics of said girlfriend

Don't have one. IDK where to even found one.

[codywi608]

Posting in epic thread...Unreal he would do something like that. Greed fuels awful things.

[simonp]

Is Jon keeping Nimh going?

[DnEhThEnD]

im just going to go ahead and put this here

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brian_Shima&action=edit&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro

[MAbans]

I've known all the people involved personally and haven't spoken to them in a while.. I'm blown away...

[gygy322]

all we need now is Shima, Jon and CK (just for the fun) online

[Coopnasty]

How are you all so gullible

http://menversus.com/images/meme/troll.png

[rollerboots666]

Is Jon keeping Nimh going?

No. There is nothing left. Shima took everything from the warehouse. Its a legal battle now.

[greg is cool]

Can somebody make a ragecomic about this story?
No way I'm reading this wall of text..

i was going to, but way too lazy.

[bfl]

No. There is nothing left. Shima took everything from the warehouse. Its a legal battle now.

So Nimh's officially dead I guess.

[gambiacrumember]

I actually started to read it and couldn't bring myself to continue because your spelling and grammar are so terrible. And so I've decided this whole story is bullshit.

[rollerboots666]

So Nimh's officially dead I guess.

As far as I know it has been. Since Oct. prob. I'm sure Brian didn't make the announcement.

[DnEhThEnD]

As far as I know it has been. Since Oct. prob. I'm sure Brian didn't make the announcement.

soon

[MattyNairn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTdhHSQB4NI

[CRF]

I'm sure Brian didn't make the announcement.
Soon.

[CRF]

I'm sure Brian didn't make the announcement.
Soon.

[ryanmatthewdaily]

Can somebody make a ragecomic about this story?
No way I'm reading this wall of text..

Pretty much just:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6dP4cZLS3Jk/TOMxzZj-GGI/AAAAAAAAAG4/PoKmaxA3UBs/s1600/rageguy.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6dP4cZLS3Jk/TOMxzZj-GGI/AAAAAAAAAG4/PoKmaxA3UBs/s1600/rageguy.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6dP4cZLS3Jk/TOMxzZj-GGI/AAAAAAAAAG4/PoKmaxA3UBs/s1600/rageguy.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6dP4cZLS3Jk/TOMxzZj-GGI/AAAAAAAAAG4/PoKmaxA3UBs/s1600/rageguy.jpg

[Bsunity]

i dont know the truth obviously; but shima has always come accross as a mammoth dickface just from all the media i have consumed of his.. so i can see it being true, im sure jon and jan did something dick along the way too, but it sounds like they made out terrible and without jobs or products to sell.

[nb]

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5923/img00554.jpg

[RoR35]

so is he a mexican or what?

[chimbaktu]

Now can someone impartial summarise?

nihm started getting into financial trouble, so the company was cut down to just the owners (brian, jon, and jan) and apparently this guy who posted the story. they had $50,000 worth of product in a warehouse that they needed to sell to make room for new inventory. shima snatched all that shit up in a uhaul and took it to a consignment shop in some outlandish and shady venture that resulted in rat tail making no money.

shima's girlfriend is a huge bitch, and shima has a huge ego. so he decided to file a lawsuit against jon and jan for ownership of the companies underneath rat tail (result pending, because OP never said what happened) and shima's mom tried to sue jon.

since all of them are idiots, they signed their corporate papers with shima being named the CEO, jon the CFO, and jan as the secretary. so when shima went behind their backs and changed the ownership of the company to just himself, it was legal and he was able to embezzle any profits.

Now shima has taken all of the nihm product and all of the company's property to his mom's.


good summary?

[DnEhThEnD]

so is he a mexican or what?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeaWc4_h4kI

[RollerBatioNation]

He might be Asian...

[gambiacrumember]

nihm started getting into financial trouble, so the company was cut down to just the owners (brian, jon, and jan) and apparently this guy who posted the story. they had $50,000 worth of product in a warehouse that they needed to sell to make room for new inventory. shima snatched all that shit up in a uhaul and took it to a consignment shop in some outlandish and shady venture that resulted in rat tail making no money.

shima's girlfriend is a huge bitch, and shima has a huge ego. so he decided to file a lawsuit against jon and jan for ownership of the companies underneath rat tail (result pending, because OP never said what happened) and shima's mom tried to sue jon.

since all of them are idiots, they signed their corporate papers with shima being named the CEO, jon the CFO, and jan as the secretary. so when shima went behind their backs and changed the ownership of the company to just himself, it was legal and he was able to embezzle any profits.

Now shima has taken all of the nihm product and all of the company's property to his mom's.


good summary?

Sweet +rep.

[jonathan]

posting in HOF thread

[ANTIROCKERSKATER]

What OP has posted is True. Sad but True.

[s.]

Can somebody make a ragecomic about this story?
No way I'm reading this wall of text..

:lol:

[Teh Nap]

posting to derp

[chimbaktu]

Can somebody make a ragecomic about this story?
No way I'm reading this wall of text..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/chimbaktu/shima.png

[s.]

haha I wish it ended with FUUU, but good anyways

[JorgeKozanas]

What is that guy?

[Dre]

plus FUCKING REP BLOODD!!!!

EDIT

Chimbucktu, not marshun

[thrueyesofruby]

Yeah well the start of Rattail happened like 10 years ago or so. All 3 of them were in there early 20's. The rollerblade scene was strong. They didn't think shit would be what it was today & shit to happen the way it did.

The rollerblading scene was way worse 10 years ago.

[sequoiad]

Don't have one. IDK where to even found one.

dont supose you could tell us what happened with all the UK black shamans being shipped with a mixture of cuff colours and v1 liners?

[rollerboots666]

The rollerblading scene was way worse 10 years ago.

Def not. I use to own 2 skate shops on the east coast from 96-01. Shit was good. Sales were strong. I came to San Diego in summer 2001 & the shop got ran w/o me till early 2002 when the scene started to die some, but mostly the shop location wasn't doing good. The whole downtown area where it was located declined really bad, so the best thing to do was to close & save the worry of going under. Plus me being in San Diego was another issue.

[rollerboots666]

dont supose you could tell us what happened with all the UK black shamans being shipped with a mixture of cuff colours and v1 liners?

Before my time at Rattail.

[thrueyesofruby]

Def not. I use to own 2 skate shops on the east coast from 96-01. Shit was good. Sales were strong. I came to San Diego in summer 2001 & the shop got ran w/o me till early 2002 when the scene started to die some, but mostly the shop location wasn't doing good. The whole downtown area where it was located declined really bad, so the best thing to do was to close & save the worry of going under. Plus me being in San Diego was another issue.

yeah it did seem to get worse around 2002, i'm getting ahead of myself.

[Red Rider]

Boring read.

[azrider]

Hot damn. If this is all true(which I bet it is) then that is pretty fucked and I hope shima's company doesn't get supported at all. If it is true.

[Dwight Harding]

well, darn

[K]

Posting in EPIC HOF Thread.

Nimhs have always Sucked anyways.


<3 Vicious & GC

[Adam K]

Posting in EPIC HOF thread

Your name is only one letter!

[LIFE+]

Snitch

[DnEhThEnD]

Snitch

oh snap

[rollerboots666]

Snitch

Its not about bein a snitch but the truth. Is this Drew?

[ift]

Its not about bein a snitch but the truth. Is this Drew?

You don't say who you are, so why should he?

[azrider]

You don't say who you are, so why should he?

He did...kind of...

[chrisfarmer]

mindgame went out with class, will this be the case for 4x4? don't hold your breath...

[Mudhut Jollyrancher]

epic thread

[Alex Coe]

Jonathan trolls harder than anyone.

[DnEhThEnD]

Jonathan ownz harder than anyone..

[rollerboots666]

I'm not afraid to say who I am. I did on the other thread. My name is Rocco. I'm not trying to hide behind a screen name or any thread. I just want people to know the truth about what Brian did to people that trusted him. The friends, co-worker, skaters that believed in him & respected him. And since some can't say something & others are afraid to let things out i'm not.

[jonathan]

Chris haffey should post in non-related thread.

[u am snookems]

Oli short is the other party, everyone!

[Tripps]

mindgame went out with class, will this be the case for 4x4? don't hold your breath...

i miss mindgame, and medium, fiction, and 976, where did all the good companies go?

[u am snookems]

So glad to be a magger right now.

[Jar]

Jesus Christ. rollerboots666, please learn how to write before posting.

[azrider]

So glad to be a magger right now.

hahaha
AUSUM

[azrider]

Jesus Christ. rollerboots666, please learn how to write before posting.

PLEASE LURN THE DYFYRCE BETWIN TYP AND WRYT

[jonathan]

PLEASE LURN THE DYFYRCE BETWIN TYP AND WRYT

:lol:

[Jar]

Oh, man. I feel silly.

[azrider]

Don't, I am the one who is silly.

[NathanC]

nasty business here.

I've heard some really nasty rumors I don't care to recount here. Some of them seem to ring true. seems like this sort of thing happens in business. I guess college is good for something >_>

[Harry Maynard]

That shit is way too long winded and detailed to be made up. Jon and Jan got shit on.

[Dy3r]

:O

[SoSure]

Chris haffey should post in non-related thread.

You don't remember how to summon him?

"Chris Haffey said David Sizemore is the next Chris Haffey."

[erautour]

That shit is way too long winded and detailed to be made up. Jon and Jan got shit on.

That's what I was thinking. If dude made even half of that up he should be writing novels.




Also glad my account here finally got activated lolz

[bobgross]

I heard shima broke up with Elliot because Elliot sucked another dude's dick before.

[Flintheart Glomgold]

im just going to go ahead and put this here

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brian_Shima&action=edit&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_joMHj-ofh60/TMUH51jVAnI/AAAAAAAAAAk/GVgEWbDy_KE/s320/orbit+girl.png
Fabulous!

[DanBLI]

Regardless of what happened, this is one person's perspective of the events that took place. No doubt there are three persons whose perspectives are far more important.

How do you prevent your name from being tarnished in the public eye? You come out and state your claim before the other party/parties do. For all anyone here knows, this is the 4th party that was brought into help, and ended up completely fucking over all 3 of them, ended up being able to manipulate jon and jan into siding with him. Now he's presenting shima in a bad light to us.
(THE ABOVE IS A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION, TO GET PEOPLE TO THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT THIS AND WAIT FOR THE MAIN PEOPLE INVOLVED IN SAID EVENTS TO COME OUT AND GIVE THEIR ACCOUNTS)

[AJ Pow]

Read original post, not reading all the other pages. Regardless,

Nimh was awesome.
So awesome that I've ridden them for the past four years; three pairs.
However, if this is all true, I will most likely need to find a new brand of skate. And that sucks.

[jonathan]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbbk46ls0s1qzgghfo1_500.jpg

[rollerboots666]

Read original post, not reading all the other pages. Regardless,

So awesome that I've ridden them for the past four years; three pairs.
However, if this is all true, I will most likely need to find a new brand of skate. And that sucks.

My white shamans were stolen from my car when it was stolen in Oct. I went back to Razors after that. I didn't feel like going to Brian's moms house to get skates.

[Dy3r]

I would of went for a cup of tea. I have some nimh shells i have never worn I just bought them because of my insane spending habits

[rollerboots666]

Regardless of what happened, this is one person's perspective of the events that took place. No doubt there are three persons whose perspectives are far more important.

How do you prevent your name from being tarnished in the public eye? You come out and state your claim before the other party/parties do. For all anyone here knows, this is the 4th party that was brought into help, and ended up completely fucking over all 3 of them, ended up being able to manipulate jon and jan into siding with him. Now he's presenting shima in a bad light to us.
(THE ABOVE IS A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION, TO GET PEOPLE TO THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT THIS AND WAIT FOR THE MAIN PEOPLE INVOLVED IN SAID EVENTS TO COME OUT AND GIVE THEIR ACCOUNTS)

I know Jan won't say anything about the situation. Jon will as soon as the legal shit is done. I am def no 4th person involved in this. Just someone to see the actions. It sucks to say this but this turnout is a result of the lack of leadership in all 3 of the owners at one point. Unfortunately it happened at the same time.

[rollerboots666]

We had some badass samples. These plaid/denim skins were insane. They were around for like 2 years in the office doing nothing.

[Flintheart Glomgold]

Nimh has been around for 4 years? i thought 3 tops.

[Matthew Shannon]

I feel like this was a ploy of CK's to get his 3000 dollars. I bet he is hiding in the Kelso's parents house

[Dy3r]

Are these at his mothers house?

[DanBLI]

rollerboots666,

I more or less believe the things you said, just the tone painted shima as the sole perpetrator. I read everything and tried to gather the events that took place and disregard anything I thought to be biased. I wasn't going to mention anything about irresponsibility but I'm glad you did. Maybe you should modify your initial post and add this "It sucks to say this but this turnout is a result of the lack of leadership in all 3 of the owners at one point. Unfortunately it happened at the same time."

I appreciate the fact that you came forward.

[IROLLDOLO]

Shima's been reading Machiavelli. Coup d'état. Long live THE SHIMANATOR!

[s.]

Shima's girlfriend been reading Machiavelli.
.

[wil747]

He fucks shit up - thus time rattail

[Wu-Tang]

Shima's been reading Machiavelli. Coup d'état. Long live THE SHIMANATOR!

You need to read or re-read The Prince.

[Jar]

Shimanator been dun terminating shit

[denialmind218]

wow.....dont know what to say....i would like to hear senior shimas response....

rollerblading is cool regardless

[gatsby]

depressing story is depressing

[NickL]

We had some badass samples. These plaid/denim skins were insane. They were around for like 2 years in the office doing nothing.

Doing nothing? Probably should have given them a job, like CEO or something.

[wil747]

First pro skate the shima shima one

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

1.posting on HOF thread
2. Is this someone from aggressivemall trying to trick us?
3.will shima and jon have a pool joust to settle their problems at bittercold? Winner gets the skates from Shimas Moms house?

[wujcik]

shima has a ton of NIMH product sitting in his mom's garage and is now starting a new company? If NIMH is dead the shops won't buy the ones he has unless he changes the skins. So, Shima skates will be re-skinned NIMH skates. Also NIMH skates had GC frames, what will the shima ones have? I don't see jon selling frames to shima if this story is really true.

Too many holes in this story.

[StarScream]

TURTLEPOWER!!!!


http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6320/shima.jpg

[screen name?]

http://piczasso.com/i/lt0k9.jpg

[u am snookems]

Rattail started having some problems mid 2010 for sure. It got to the point where the work crew was minimized pretty much down to the owners Jon, Jan, & Brian to run things. Brian after being pretty much the face of the company w/ his skating had to actually start to manage his company & start to sell skate to make shit work or the company would fail. Honestly that was just a bad move because that guy can't sell for shit. I'll give him his skating because he can def does that good.

Other things were being done to raise money to help keep rattail afloat by its owners. This is when shima's plan started to come about w/ the push of his gf. The fact is the company is a solid company w/ 4x4, vicious, & nimh. Nimh was the real money for the distribution. Once numbers were drawn up on how the company could sustain itself & make a huge profit this is when the greed started to form. Knowing this could all be possible taken by him if done right a plan was then made. It’s the small things that take place that are done that you don't realize till the end that matter.
So shortly after things at rattail started getting tight the idea Jon, Brian, & Jan came up w/ was to focus their attention on Nimh because it was the money maker of the distribution. If Nimh could rise up again & sell well it would bring 4x4 & Vicious up as well. A new sales person also came into the office to help push the company & drive new sales. Shima at this time decided his plan was he had wanted to move to SF. The problem w/ that was he wanted to bring Nimh w/ him, but he didn't really want to leave any of his company behind. This is when shit started to go bad.

One major thing that separated the 3 owners from their work was shima's gf. Jon & Jan could not stand to be around someone that just waltz into the office & would makes demands to Jon & Jan. She came in like she was this long time rollerblader chick that knew the industry but didn't know shit & didn't even rollerblade. Brian also forgot to mention to his gf that Jon & Jan were also the owners as well. She figured that this was all Brian’s empire. HAHAHA. The second she found out that there were a total of 3 business partners his attitude changed. But the problem was still her. Brian also felt the need to bring her into the office all the time regardless if the others couldn't stand her. This made the others not want to be there & work outside from the rest. But w/ a new sales rep there as a neutral party, shit could still get done.

Things seem to get better w/ the new sales guys pushing for new accounts & selling tons of skates. After shit was getting done this is when the realization that shima was a shitty business man was seen. You can't sell a company because you’re "Brian Shima". I know some of you will disagree, but do you think the buyers @ dicks or play it again sports or big online sport websites know who Brian shima is. NOPE. They go by numbers & company info. Maybe in 2000 that would have worked. But regardless of the positive outcome, shima had already had a plan that would just wait to be released. The first real attack was really shitty.

With about 50k in V2's in the warehouse something had to been done so new skates could come in. The new sales rep had a great plan to get all the skates sold quickly, but that wouldn't work w/ shima's hidden plan. Instead shima decided it would be better to take the entire inventory rattail had & give to a second party to help distribute for rattail. So he got a U-Haul truck one morning before the Jon & Jan got to the warehouse & took everything. This was done by him w/o everyone agreeing to this. This also meant that no more sales could be made from rattail until the new skates arrived. The answer to this so called action from shima was he was sick of looking at all the old skates & now there out of the way. But the company still didn't have the money for that product until it was sold by the other party. Makes no sense if you think about it. Instead of discounting a great product for more shops to get Nimh into Brian had his own plan. It’s shitty to because it seems Brian could care less about the little shops. Like the mom & pop or core shops that were around.

At this point when our remaining stock was sent to this 2nd party the game plan was to really push the new skates. We still had a lot of the old stock to push so I thought though. Shima’s arrangement w/ the 2nd party as told to Jon, Jan, & I was that the skates are on consignment, but if we sold anything the 2nd party would ship them out for us, basically acting as a distributor for us. At first I thought this was great but I found out shit wasn’t. The second the skates left the warehouse I had already made a bunch of sales. So acting on shima’s agreement w/ the other party I would call them to let them know of the sales. Seems the other party was unaware of this agreement. After trying to make sales & get shit sorted the new agreement w/ this 2nd party was that shima was to handle the orders. I would have to email him the orders made & he would get the product released for the other party. Seemed weird but hey whatever it takes to make Nimh money. But when that wasn’t going right I started to question things. After talking to the owner of this other party the truth final came out. That the agreement w/ shima & them was that the skates were on consignment only & that rattail was not able to sell any of those products or to use them as a distributor. It seemed strange that someone would just let $50k in skates go like that without trying to make that money for themselves. Regardless we moved on worrying about the new skates coming to the warehouse in a few weeks. Around this time is when shima had made it clear that he wanted the company for himself & would do anything to take it. Jon & Jan were shocked that this came about & talked w/ shima to see what could come about & how shit could be resolved.

At this point shit got bad. With no old stock to sell & shima pulling money out of rattail’s account on a weekly to daily event shit dried up fast. The new product was going to be the main source of income to push for the new line to come out in December. What people need to realize about Jon is that as long as Rattail existed he never took any money made w/ that company. Everything he ever did was from GC. Shima would consistently use the money. So as time got closer w/ for the skates to come the guns were drawn & shima drew first blood. He served Jon & Jan w/ papers suing them for Nimh, 4x4, & Vicious. Not Rattail but just the companies. The reason he was doing this was because he wanted the companies & not the debt that came w/ Rattail. He figured that the loans were for Jon & Jan to keep & not him. Not only did this come at them, but someone else got involved w/ things. Shima’s mom started to go after Jon. It seems shima borrowed money from his mom to help Nimh at one point. She felt that Jon should have to pay her back for the loan, not Brian. So with all of this going on the skates finally came in to the warehouse to get money back & hopefully fix things.

With the new skates coming shortly many things were going on at Rattail. First we were trying to figure out WTF was going on with the video. Brian’s answer was that there were problems w/ merging the different video formats & that’s what was taking so long. The footage was done moths before this point mind you. Also Jon, Jan, & Brian were trying to some to a solution on how to work out things with the companies. A great solution was for Shima to take Nimh & Jon & Jan to take 4x4 & Vicious & they go there ways. This would be done after the new skates were gone so the money can be split properly & both can fund there new projects. Other scenarios were being worked out between lawyers to come to a fair agreement.

Soon enough the skates came into the warehouse & it was time to get these things cleared out so shit could be sorted between the owners & the standing of the companies. Unfortunately there was a shortage of the Oli skates that came to the US. The order was for 180 skates which only about half of that came. This cause a huge problem for all the shops that pre-book there skates. After going over the orders & seeing what the inventory was my best solution was to shorten everyone’s orders by a few skates allowing all the shops to get some Oli’s rather than none. Especially because some shops pre-sold skates & both Shima & I promised skates to almost all shops. I had brought up this idea up w/ Jon & Jan as well & the idea was good to make all the shops happy. But when it came time to break the pallets down Shima GF came to the warehouse to “help out”. This forced Jon & Jan to not want to be back in the warehouse because of the conflict she brought to the table with her presence.

After telling Shima what the plan was to do for accommodating all the shops w/ a few Oli’s to please most, he began to argue with me about how the orders were to be done. His main concern was the big shops that ordered a large quantity of skates & they would get what there order was. He felt they spent the most with Nimh & would get priority over the other shops regardless of who had their pre-orders in first. This pissed me off bad. He continued to say he called all the shops & told them of the shortage & how they would not get skates because of the situation. The funny thing about that is when I had called the shops about 30 mins before he got to the office about the shortage, no one had known about this. What a fucking liar. I tried to explain that the smaller shops that are core shops & are what keep things alive in these small town or cities is where we all came from & what keeps rollerblading alive. He didn’t give a fuck. All he saw was how to make the most money from this order & not the business relationships he had with people. After many words exchanged with Brian & his GF (who though she had some power to join in on the conversation), shit really started to hit the fan. Thankful his GF left leaving just Brian & I to sort out the skates.

After opening up skate boxes to check quality control we noticed something had happened w/ the white shamans. We all freaked out, Brian especially. It had looked that possible the whole order of skate might have had to be sent back due to an error w/ manufacturing. Shima became so upset that he ran out off the warehouse & cried his ass off in a park nearby. He spent hours there while Jon & me sorted out the problem & realized that shit was all good. We had a solution & fixed it. It took Jon & me hours & hours, skate by skate to check everything & send shit out. Yep it was Jon & me, not Shima. We busted our asses to make sure people got there orders & things are done right & took care of the small shops as well.

At this point in time getting the skates cleared out so we could bring a Montre skate in for the holidays was a goal regardless of the outcome of the company’s owner turnover. I pushed the white shaman’s everyday to old & new shops all over. This was the only inventory rattail had at the time. Things between Brian, Jon, & Jan seemed to go up & down as the days went. For a while everything seemed to be in limbo. Jon had even confronted Brain about what was going on, especially the shit about Brian's mom suing Jon. Shima’s answer was that she was suing him as well for the money that was borrowed by Brian. HAHA, Brian’s own mom was suing her son. BULLSHIT. He would sit there & say he didn’t know anything & didn’t want to talk or work shit out between friends & business partners. But behind Jon & Jan’s back Brian started to make moves. Shima started to clean the bank account for rattail from all the new skates that came in. It was just shortly after that that Brian went to took all the money, closed the account down & started a new one using him as the only person on the company. He was able to do this being slack & sneaky. Back when Rattail was formed many years again on a drunken night in Jan’s apartment. Brian, Jan, & Jon all did there corporate papers. It was all a joke to them at the time because they were all young. So when they named there places in the company they made Brain Shima – CEO, Jon Elliott – CFO, & Jan Welsh – Secretary. So when Brian went to the bank he was able to convince the bank manager that Jon & Jan were no longer with the company & because he was the CEO he closed the account & reopened a new account as the sole proprietor. Sounds super shady. But if you think about it sounds about right for him. This also made us think about the old inventory that was on “consignment”. Because Rattail never got a check for months & it seems weird that not one skate was sold in that time. But now it would make sense because any agreement made with Brian & this other party could now work better. Brain could now cash any checks that were in his name only for the skates. Things started to unravel fast behind Shima’s plans.

With everything going bad for Rattail, but mostly Jon & Jan personally they still stuck by the company because it’s everything they put into it for their love of rollerblading. But there were only so many things that could be done. We still sold skates to shops hoping things would change, but all was lost within a few days.

Brian waited till it was a Monday to strike a heavy blow. He knew Bedouin was closed this day & no one would be around to go in the shop. I had called Jon that morning to tell him to meet me over there so I could sell some skates. He told me not to worry about it & to take the day off & get on it the next day (Tuesday). Maybe 2 hours after that conversation Jon had to go to the warehouse & talk to the landlord about a rent check that Brian bounced on him. After getting there he noticed something had happened while they were away. Jon immediately called me flipping out. Either early in the morning or late Sunday night after the store front closed, Brian went to the warehouse & loaded up every skate & Rattail product around. This included the business computer, shipping scale, samples, EVERYTHING. He then brought everything over to he’s moms house to store it for the time being. Since this happen Brian has not been around San Diego much. No one as seen him or heard from him. There was a few emails sent to all the shops after the skates disappeared from the warehouse that told all shop owners that Jon & Jan were no longer with Rattail or NIMH, 4x4, or Vicious, & not associate with them. If any shop owners had concerns that there were to contact Brian Shima only for anything. Email signatures from Shima changed from “Brian Shima” to Brian Shima – CEO”. His plan to start his new company was started now. Brian has teamed up with a financial backing partner to help him w/ the funds of his new company. So is Shima Skate Manufacturing a 100% owned company? NO. He will again just be the guy skating around while others do the work on selling his skates.

This story is what has happened over the months of June till holiday time. You can think what you want of what I said but it is all true. I was there to see it & hear it from either Brian, Jon, & Jan. I’ve read emails from Brian, legal letters, & everything else there was to know what the fuck happened. So if you want to support a company that was started with blood money, go for it. Nimh was awesome. Support companies that do well for the community.

Just in case.

[andreas542]

Read all of first post, at great difficulty.

In b4 Shima's mom's/gf's retaliation post.

[marshun]

http://i29.tinypic.com/2zqrjvr.jpg

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

shima has a ton of NIMH product sitting in his mom's garage and is now starting a new company? If NIMH is dead the shops won't buy the ones he has unless he changes the skins. So, Shima skates will be re-skinned NIMH skates. Also NIMH skates had GC frames, what will the shima ones have? I don't see jon selling frames to shima if this story is really true.

Too many holes in this story.

I betting there will be a shitload of GC frames for sale on ebay.
Shima skates....boot only.

[Monday]

Createz

[RoR35]

so if shima is so bad.... then why did jon jon, montre, and chase go with him? each of them could go out and skate for pretty much anyone they wanted.

[Cooleync]

holy jesus gawd......

[Harry Maynard]

Stealing from your best buddies is about as low as you can go. Legend or not, he's a jackass.

[nameant]

so if shima is so bad.... then why did jon jon, montre, and chase go with him? each of them could go out and skate for pretty much anyone they wanted.
People who are good friends with Shima aren't going to look at him as the one at fault. Think about it. Hell even posters here are taking the "Who cares, it's Shima. He can do whatever he wants" approach. Of course good friends of his are going to take his side. Joey skates for GC tho as far as I know, so he def deals with Shima and Elliott. Perhaps they just look at it as a business decision and nothing personal.

[Senate]

Reaganomics

[RoR35]

don't matter what happened. it's no ones business, but the people directly involved.

[nameant]

don't matter what happened. it's no ones business, but the people directly involved.
Disagree. I'd like to know what kind of person the guy I was giving my money to was, especially in such a small community.

[DANNY!]

Glad Rocco cleared all this up. I def believe him i was just in Cali heard the same shit, and it's all making sense now lol

[RyanTimms]

i just feel like there is no way montre jon and joey would just follow shima if they knew any bit of this, so maybe shima fabricated a very different version of the story to get them on his side..?

[Jar]

He could have fucked their girlfriends too.

http://www.wwtdd.com/2011/02/tony-hawk-is-sleeping-with-his-best-friends-wife/

[Teh Nap]

even if all of this is true I can't help but think about the fact that shima is the only person out of jon, jan, and rollerboots that is still(or ever was) a pro skater. His name is on the skates, he's risking his health, so I can't blame him for feeling entitled. Derp

[DnEhThEnD]

Reaganomics

interruptin discussions about reaganomic repercussions, fuck em, we're fuckin chug a luggin

[nameant]

even if all of this is true I can't help but think about the fact that shima is the only person out of jon, jan, and rollerboots that is still(or ever was) a pro skater. His name is on the skates, he's risking his health, so I can't blame him for feeling entitled. Derp

Who cares? Like Shima is going to be killing it forever? Most company owners, filmers, editors, photographers aren't very good or don't blade at the level they once did, does this mean none of them matter? Age catches up to every1. I guess once Shima can't kill it like he does now, he'll just be worthless too.

[DnEhThEnD]

even if all of this is true I can't help but think about the fact that shima is the only person out of jon, jan, and rollerboots that is still(or ever was) a pro skater. His name is on the skates, he's risking his health, so I can't blame him for feeling entitled. Derp

Colin 3Kelso must have talked him into this

[BB]

even if all of this is true I can't help but think about the fact that shima is the only person out of jon, jan, and rollerboots that is still(or ever was) a pro skater. His name is on the skates, he's risking his health, so I can't blame him for feeling entitled. Derp

this is close to the dumbest thing ive ever read...questining that jon elliot ever was a pro skater?are u fuckin kiddin me...oh hell gtfo asap

[Teh Nap]

I was talking about jan and rollerboots idiot, and I don't know how me not blaming shima for being entitled equates to me not respecting jon elliot or other pro skaters that don't skate anymore. Just an observation.

[BB]

I was talking about jan and rollerboots idiot, and I don't know how me not blaming shima for being entitled equates to me not respecting jon elliot or other pro skaters that don't skate anymore. Just an observation.


even if all of this is true I can't help but think about the fact that shima is the only person out of jon, jan, and rollerboots that is still(or ever was) a pro skater. His name is on the skates, he's risking his health, so I can't blame him for feeling entitled. Derp

choose your words better next time....

[ryanmatthewdaily]

approx. 2 more pages

[redneb]

Ok so i've read through all 8 pages of this, and I just want to see if I've got it all straight......

Shima.....left.........usd...........?

[Teh Nap]

choose your words better next time....

"that is STILL" means that these people could in fact have been a pro skater. Don't be such a fucking idiot next time dumbass. Thanks for the neg rep bitch ;)

[Blade Psycho]

"that is STILL" means that these people could in fact have been a pro skater. Don't be such a fucking idiot next time dumbass. Thanks for the neg rep bitch ;)

But you also said "(or ever was)", making his point completely valid and you an idiot.

[Teh Nap]

"or ever was" points to jan and rollerboots mr. smarty pants. Why is this so hard to understand?

[Blade Psycho]

"or ever was" points to jan and rollerboots mr. smarty pants. Why is this so hard to understand?

The fact that it's hard to understand is the whole point. You worded that poorly and that's exactly what you're getting called out for.

[Teh Nap]

http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/baby_crying_closeup.jpg

[Blade Psycho]

http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/baby_crying_closeup.jpg

Don't blame me because you can't write a coherent sentence for shit.

[Teh Nap]

I blame you for not being able to understand my (mainly)coherent sentence and then joining in with this other d bag.

[Teh Nap]

odoyle rules

[DnEhThEnD]

i saw jan welch in real life before, rollerblading, he gave me a very intense look directly into my eyes... I looked away, he won

[Pulp]

The announcement isn't supposed to be til Monday, but what the hell.

The SHIMA design is a toe-cut Oxygen boot with a skin.
The first pro model will be the Shima TJ Weber, with glow in the dark cuffs, which you can't see because of the skin. It comes with Air Support frames, AWD wheels, and Rather Impolite bearings.

[fast eddie]

Rather Impolite bearings.

Best name for a company :lol:

[u am snookems]

don't matter what happened. it's no ones business, but the people directly involved.

U dum. Of course it matters.

[DnEhThEnD]

whatever happened happened

http://29.media.tumblr.com/YxJPfSRrNkmtaub00ZDzNvqlo1_500.jpg

[AussieDave]

Too many holes in this story.

exactly.
there must be some truth as Shima's mom did file suit against Elliot (search case 37-2010-00102396-CU-BC-CTL (http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/portal/page?_pageid=55,1056871&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL).) However, much of this story does not make sense.

The CEO can not, on his own, decide to change the ownership structure of a corporation to a sole proprietorship and just cut out other owners. A single owner and/or corporate officer acting alone can not legally appropriate corporate property for their own. Also if Jon and Jan are listed in the articles of incorporation as agents of the entity, like all owners in this type of situation should be, they can access any bank accounts held by the corporation. Taking property belonging to Rat Tail, transferring corporate bank accounts to personal accounts and cashing checks for the sale of corporate property in his own name; would all be considered fraud and embezzlement. If Jon and Jan are not complete idiots, they would sue Shima in a hot second had he tried any of this, but no such civil suits have been filed.

While I have no reason to doubt that rollerboots is relaying this story to the best of his knowledge, it can't all be true. There is more we don't know.

[ilurk]

exactly.
there must be some truth as Shima's mom did file suit against Elliot (search case 37-2010-00102396-CU-BC-CTL (http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/portal/page?_pageid=55,1056871&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL).) However, much of this story does not make sense.

Good find!

However, the link doesn't take you directly to the case. The case title is TERESA SHIMA VS. JONATHON ELLIOTT search it!

[Klqr]

I will not buy skates from BRIAN SHIMA (So narcissistic btw) Manufacturing.

[jakeordie]

The CEO can not, on his own, decide to change the ownership structure of a corporation to a sole proprietorship and just cut out other owners. A single owner and/or corporate officer acting alone can not legally appropriate corporate property for their own. Also if Jon and Jan are listed in the articles of incorporation as agents of the entity, like all owners in this type of situation should be, they can access any bank accounts held by the corporation. Taking property belonging to Rat Tail, transferring corporate bank accounts to personal accounts and cashing checks for the sale of corporate property in his own name; would all be considered fraud and embezzlement. If Jon and Jan are not complete idiots, they would sue Shima in a hot second had he tried any of this, but no such civil suits have been filed.

While I have no reason to doubt that rollerboots is relaying this story to the best of his knowledge, it can't all be true. There is more we don't know.
http://www.matrix-explained.com/photopost/data/505/104Reload12_-_Architect.jpg

Sorry, that's how it works.

[ilurk]

Okay so rat - tail site is down.

but... http://216.169.148.174/team.html

wat?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Shima

lol

[Flandangle]

Coming from rollerblading brands like USD (universal skate design) & Razor Skates, he is now, along with Jon Elliot, a former pro skater, co-owner and teamrider of
~ Groundcontrol-Frames
~ NIMH- Skates
~ WE OUT THERE
~ Shima Manufacturing
He also single handled destroyed the evil empire company Rat-tail that posed a threat to his companies.

8)

[|/\|\|]

Def not. I use to own 2 skate shops on the east coast from 96-01. Shit was good. Sales were strong. I came to San Diego in summer 2001 & the shop got ran w/o me till early 2002 when the scene started to die some, but mostly the shop location wasn't doing good. The whole downtown area where it was located declined really bad, so the best thing to do was to close & save the worry of going under. Plus me being in San Diego was another issue.

What were the names of the skate shops?

[jesus]

anybody important posting in here yet? IE Shima or Jon?

[Flandangle]

anybody important posting in here yet? IE Shima or Jon?

You just did.

[DnEhThEnD]

anybody important posting in here yet? IE Shima or Jon?

no, but im hoping Colin 3Kelso will chime in

[azrider]

no, but im hoping Colin 3Kelso will chime in

Turn it into a 50 page thread

[machtroua]

come on Colin, say it's a powerslide conspiracy

please

[Senate]

Team Paradise

[rol crew]

DONT SUPPORT NON-SKATER OWNED BRANDS, SUPPORT THIEVES INSTEAD

wait, what???? hahahaha

[blakeobrien]

someone might have alrieady said it, but john bolino is going to be pissed about his tattoo

[Teh Nap]

someone might have alrieady said it, but john bolino is going to be pissed about his tattoo
hahaha...holy shit I forgot about that

[rol crew]

someone might have alrieady said it, but john bolino is going to be pissed about his tattoo

hahahahhahaha youre right!!!!

[azrider]

Was mentioned like 20 times in the shima manufacturing topic.

[Kent]

"But come on...its Brian Shima"

[Kevin Lubovich]

2010/2011 Jon Jan Brian Battle - 1st Wikipedia with the LOLZ

[RollerNews]

nice

[gen2roller]

nice

:lol:

[rollerboots666]

What were the names of the skate shops?

Skate Factory Plus (Poconos, PA) & Skate Factory 2 (Wilkes-Barre, PA)

[rollerboots666]

exactly.
there must be some truth as Shima's mom did file suit against Elliot (search case 37-2010-00102396-CU-BC-CTL (http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/portal/page?_pageid=55,1056871&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL).) However, much of this story does not make sense.

The CEO can not, on his own, decide to change the ownership structure of a corporation to a sole proprietorship and just cut out other owners. A single owner and/or corporate officer acting alone can not legally appropriate corporate property for their own. Also if Jon and Jan are listed in the articles of incorporation as agents of the entity, like all owners in this type of situation should be, they can access any bank accounts held by the corporation. Taking property belonging to Rat Tail, transferring corporate bank accounts to personal accounts and cashing checks for the sale of corporate property in his own name; would all be considered fraud and embezzlement. If Jon and Jan are not complete idiots, they would sue Shima in a hot second had he tried any of this, but no such civil suits have been filed.

While I have no reason to doubt that rollerboots is relaying this story to the best of his knowledge, it can't all be true. There is more we don't know.

Jon & Jan know this. What Shima did is illegal.

[George Amos]

anybody important posting in here yet? IE Shima or Jon?

Fucking word AJ.

I read like three paragraphs of the opening post, complete and utter bullshit.

It's sad that I can't trust Be-Mag for this sort of info anymore, there was a time when the kids on this board virtually wrote Daily Bread's Disinformation.

Won't trust a word til it's in PDF/Mag form.

[Monday]

Won't trust a word til it's in PDF/Mag form.

You can save webpages as pdf. Just a heads up... ;)

[Flandangle]

Wait a second...

Rollerboots666...
Colin Kelso's profile picture on Facebook...

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179810_184073014966759_100000921866635_420957_5862 714_n.jpg

...

CK = rollerboots666 ?

[Mudhut Jollyrancher]

Wait a second...

Rollerboots666...
Colin Kelso's profile picture on Facebook...

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179810_184073014966759_100000921866635_420957_5862 714_n.jpg

...

CK = rollerboots666 ?:shock:
WE MUST GO DEEPER

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

Hes trolled us all........

[S_E_N_A_T_E_B_O_Y]

I googled it, and nope Colin Kelso had nothing to do with it.

[Ryan Loewy]

nice
gtfo with your generic comments.

[rollerboots666]

Yeah i'm not CK thats for sure. All though we are both fro PA. But i'm north east PA.

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

Sean Kelso?

[S_E_N_A_T_E_B_O_Y]

RAZOR TWINS THEN!

[rollerboots666]

Haha nope. Anyways I want everyone to try to take what I said & ask Shima. I think this is something that needs to be done. I hope people over there @ winterclash are asking shit to both Jon & Brian. I doubt you will even get one of them on this forum to say anything. Beside would you actually believe anything or if it was really them. You doubt who I am why not them. Shit I could made Jon E an account or if he had one use his to do this all. Some might think it would hold more truth but would it? I rather see a video or read an article in One. Hopefully when shit clears this can be something in an issue.

[u am snookems]

Just realized Colin Kelso wasn't on the warpy face team page. WTG Kelso.

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

Just realized Colin Kelso wasn't on the warpy face team page. WTG Kelso.

His mind was pretty warped 5 months ago.

[u am snookems]

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/atoz/wharrgarbl.jpg

[CovertOps]

I think rollerboots has a crush on Brians girlfriend.

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

I think rollerboots has a crush on Brians girlfriend.

No pics of her?

[Flintheart Glomgold]

His mind was pretty warped 5 months ago.


C'mon man...Dude has an alcohol/drug problem.

Still managed to bust out the best section in the Nimh video.

[Klqr]

We need a Kelso's brothers company !

[MattyNairn]

We need a Kelso's brothers company !

WeThinkWe'reBetterThanYouAll Skate Manufacturing.

[Flandangle]

We need a Kelso's brothers company !

Brotherly Love...
Already exists...

[Dan-Man]

This breaks my heart.


I've been rollerblading on and off ever since I was a little kid. A few years ago, some unfortunant events took place that changed my life and forced me to move back in with the folks and pretty much start fresh. (looking back probobly the best thing that could of happend!) Anyway in my new surroundings I re-discovered my love for rollerblading, and with this came NIMH. NIMH was something I had never seen. Something new. Something that made me want to skate and be a skater. Over the last few years, I"ve watched NIMH grow. The NIMH team quickly became my new favorite skaters (Schrock, Moreno, Brierley bros, hornish, all the low-lifes, etc.). NIMH was and is bringing something great into rollerblading. Something that wasn't just making rollerblading even more bad ass, but making life seem a little better. as stupid as that sounds.

When I read the Oli Short interview in the December 2009 issue of Be-Mag it was on. I wanted to be part of the "revolution"
(here is a smal clip from the interview that really had an impact on me.)



So Why ask NIMH for skates?
Unless you are a pro skater being paid to do what you love each day, if you look down at your feet and you don't see NIMH, you don't think about a bigger picture for rollerblading or what you represent. That's not to say that you have to be inclined that way, but you obviously don't see what SHIMA and ELLIOT have put on the line or invested. Those guys put everything they ever made from skating back into skating. That's NIMH. Most people just want to skate and don't give a fuck about who owns what company or even know anything about who owns what company or even know anything about the history of the brands they rock; I guess to expect so much is to be idealistic fo the times we live in.(OLI)

There's nothing wrong with just wanting a product and not caring about what you support, it's choice, but there are a lot of people who can talk a lot of shit on how they've skated for years and are the first to talk about what's real! Well if you're someone who gets it and your mate with no NIMHS crosses the line about his philosophy on what's real, then You tell that emo punk, what's real. Every time someones buys NIMH he's joining the revolution.(OLI)

Are you the piper at the Gates of NIMH.
Yes. (OLI)







I have no idea what is really going on in this arguement. If this is the end of NIMH i don't know what I will do, it will definitely change the ideas and views I had about skating.

[Brant]

I Like to skate...a lot...

Shima ain't right but ill wuck to said gf

In fact.. my jaunce ain't the biggest but if what I hear about asians and penis size is correct I'm sure shimas gf is just pissy cause he can't get her off. Shima just let me jump in there for a few rounds and ill have ya girl all calmed down

[bostonsk8er]

Rattail is gone. Nimh is dead.
Rollerboots, why? Shits bad enough in blading where skater owned is concerned. Feels like Senate all over again, only messier. You realize what bringing all this to light will do to blading, don't you?
I wanted to say something funny. Lol'ed pretty hàrd at impolite bearings! But there's no funny anywhere in this situation. Once again, pissy little fights destroy blader owned companies, and make bladers look like shit.
I wish Brian, Jon, and Jan all the best. I hope each of them find what they're looking for, and that karma bites whoever most deserves it in the ass hard.
I'll just switch to Valo, and hope JJ can keep running the only real skater owned boot company successfully, and with dignity.
Goodbye rattail! It was a nice run it had, great product abounded, and it was awesome.

[gygy322]

We need a Kelso's brothers company !

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA - no

[jakeordie]

I've been rollerblading on and off ever since I was a little kid. A few years ago, some unfortunant events took place that changed my life and forced me to move back in with the folks and pretty much start fresh. (looking back probobly the best thing that could of happend!) Anyway in my new surroundings I re-discovered my love for rollerblading, and with this came NIMH. NIMH was something I had never seen. Something new. Something that made me want to skate and be a skater. Over the last few years, I"ve watched NIMH grow. The NIMH team quickly became my new favorite skaters (Schrock, Moreno, Brierley bros, hornish, all the low-lifes, etc.). NIMH was and is bringing something great into rollerblading. Something that wasn't just making rollerblading even more bad ass, but making life seem a little better. as stupid as that sounds.

I have no idea what is really going on in this arguement. If this is the end of NIMH i don't know what I will do, it will definitely change the ideas and views I had about skating.
It doesn't sound stupid at all, we're rollerbladers we all wanna feel that way about the people progressing what we all do. It just makes us all look stupid when we find out it's all based on lies.

The reason I'm more cynical than most is that I've seen it happen over & over again.

[RyanBeehlerrr]

what do i do with the nimh shrine in my room?

[studiosivisuals]

what do i do with the nimh shrine in my room?

Keep it and add the new Montre boot to it:-D

[u am snookems]

This breaks my heart.


I've been rollerblading on and off ever since I was a little kid. A few years ago, some unfortunant events took place that changed my life and forced me to move back in with the folks and pretty much start fresh. (looking back probobly the best thing that could of happend!) Anyway in my new surroundings I re-discovered my love for rollerblading, and with this came NIMH. NIMH was something I had never seen. Something new. Something that made me want to skate and be a skater. Over the last few years, I"ve watched NIMH grow. The NIMH team quickly became my new favorite skaters (Schrock, Moreno, Brierley bros, hornish, all the low-lifes, etc.). NIMH was and is bringing something great into rollerblading. Something that wasn't just making rollerblading even more bad ass, but making life seem a little better. as stupid as that sounds.

When I read the Oli Short interview in the December 2009 issue of Be-Mag it was on. I wanted to be part of the "revolution"
(here is a smal clip from the interview that really had an impact on me.)



So Why ask NIMH for skates?
Unless you are a pro skater being paid to do what you love each day, if you look down at your feet and you don't see NIMH, you don't think about a bigger picture for rollerblading or what you represent. That's not to say that you have to be inclined that way, but you obviously don't see what SHIMA and ELLIOT have put on the line or invested. Those guys put everything they ever made from skating back into skating. That's NIMH. Most people just want to skate and don't give a fuck about who owns what company or even know anything about who owns what company or even know anything about the history of the brands they rock; I guess to expect so much is to be idealistic fo the times we live in.(OLI)

There's nothing wrong with just wanting a product and not caring about what you support, it's choice, but there are a lot of people who can talk a lot of shit on how they've skated for years and are the first to talk about what's real! Well if you're someone who gets it and your mate with no NIMHS crosses the line about his philosophy on what's real, then You tell that emo punk, what's real. Every time someones buys NIMH he's joining the revolution.(OLI)

Are you the piper at the Gates of NIMH.
Yes. (OLI)







I have no idea what is really going on in this arguement. If this is the end of NIMH i don't know what I will do, it will definitely change the ideas and views I had about skating.

www.revolutionskate.com

People are still revolting, don't worry.

[rocknroller]

what do i do with the nimh shrine in my room?

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/25yuswsw28295.gif

[rollerboots666]

Rattail is gone. Nimh is dead.
Rollerboots, why? Shits bad enough in blading where skater owned is concerned. Feels like Senate all over again, only messier. You realize what bringing all this to light will do to blading, don't you?
I wanted to say something funny. Lol'ed pretty hàrd at impolite bearings! But there's no funny anywhere in this situation. Once again, pissy little fights destroy blader owned companies, and make bladers look like shit.
I wish Brian, Jon, and Jan all the best. I hope each of them find what they're looking for, and that karma bites whoever most deserves it in the ass hard.
I'll just switch to Valo, and hope JJ can keep running the only real skater owned boot company successfully, and with dignity.
Goodbye rattail! It was a nice run it had, great product abounded, and it was awesome.

You do realize Roces owns most of Valo right? So its not 100% skater owner. That doesn't make it a bad company in any way. Shit if you want to get technical Andy owner of Razors has put skates on before & skated some ramps. So would you consider this a 100% owner company? If not why?

What defines people as a "rollerblader"? What if someone skated & couldn't anymore but had nothing but love for the sport & did everything to follow it, help it, & possibly change it, does that make him less then some of these kids that just skate & don't give a fuck about the industry or sport?

[rollerboots666]

.

[rollerboots666]

I think rollerboots has a crush on Brians girlfriend.

Sherlock Holmes here figured it all out. My greed & lust has finally shown through on my story.

[Dy3r]

If you watch Wall Street you can learn all about how "greed is good"..... Its all about more money and how to get it... Usually by any means necessary.

[Flandangle]

If you watch Wall Street you can learn all about how "greed is good"..... Its all about more money and how to get it... Usually by any means necessary.


Greed, for lack of a better word, is good

Learn to quote Gordon Gekko correctly

[bostonsk8er]

You do realize Roces owns most of Valo right? So its not 100% skater owner. That doesn't make it a bad company in any way. Shit if you want to get technical Andy owner of Razors has put skates on before & skated some ramps. So would you consider this a 100% owner company? If not why?

What defines people as a "rollerblader"? What if someone skated & couldn't anymore but had nothing but love for the sport & did everything to follow it, help it, & possibly change it, does that make him less then some of these kids that just skate & don't give a fuck about the industry or sport?

I still got nothin but love for bladers who stay involved long after they're unable to blade. I intend to open a shop to stay involved myself.
I don't respect what happens when people let $$$ become the be all and end all. Greed is dangerous and destructive. The rattail story is a perfect example. So is the senate story.
And yes, I know roces owns an interest in valo, and no, that doesn't make them less skater owned to me.
Yes, I would say andy is/was a blader, my reasons for not liking razors have more to do with their treatment of certain individuals at certain times, and how for profit that situation looks to me.
I'm just sad to see this happening again.

[jakeordie]

You do realize Roces owns most of Valo right? So its not 100% skater owner. That doesn't make it a bad company in any way. Shit if you want to get technical Andy owner of Razors has put skates on before & skated some ramps. So would you consider this a 100% owner company? If not why?
I played a round of golf once, but I ain't a golfer. Post pics of Andy skating, my offer of leaving Be-mag forever still stands.


What defines people as a "rollerblader"? What if someone skated & couldn't anymore but had nothing but love for the sport & did everything to follow it, help it, & possibly change it, does that make him less then some of these kids that just skate & don't give a fuck about the industry or sport?
We all know the answer, but it isn't something you express in words on the internet. I've called out Jon Elliott on here for his own good, dude let it slip without having the balls to call it. I don't care who's the nice guy, Shima is in & Jon is out. You choose your own level of involvement.

[salomonskater]

I played a round of golf once, but I ain't a golfer. Post pics of Andy skating, my offer of leaving Be-mag forever still stands.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2240/andyi.png

[jakeordie]

Not grabbed, doesn't count.

[Flandangle]

not riding flat, doesn't count

[jakeordie]

Pantz not tight enough, doesn't count.

[salomonskater]

If you look at "Andy's" chest it looks like an angry chinese person.

[bostonsk8er]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2240/andyi.png
Lol'ed HARD!!!

[leiftheviking | phc]

As well as your's.

I wanted to get this finished in time before winter clash. I could care less on the spelling & grammar. If the fact of what Brian did thats important. I like how everyone seems to be proper on here.

That's no excuse for using the wrong form of there/their/they're. Seriously. Just makes you seem like an idiot.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

so you're saying we should rob shima's mom's house?

[RoR35]

please everyone STFU with this skater owned bullshit. ya'll are starting to sound like CK. just ride whatever skates u like the best... regardless of who the owner of the company is and all that jazz. just stick to the nitty gritty... does JJ even own Valo 100%? WTF is skater owned even mean? why does it even matter? what's with this obsession with better and faster? let's go back in time b4 these gay ass forums and pantz.... well pantz have always been around, but let's go back anyway. find teh rootz of the sport again... yea that's right... i called it a sport. X-games style motherfuckers. X GAMES mofuckas. /thatisall

[Mudhut Jollyrancher]

please everyone STFU with this skater owned bullshit. ya'll are starting to sound like CK. just ride whatever skates u like the best... regardless of who the owner of the company is and all that jazz. just stick to the nitty gritty... does JJ even own Valo 100%? WTF is skater owned even mean? why does it even matter? what's with this obsession with better and faster? let's go back in time b4 these gay ass forums and pantz.... well pantz have always been around, but let's go back anyway. find teh rootz of the sport again... yea that's right... i called it a sport. X-games style motherfuckers. X GAMES mofuckas. /thatisall
:lol:

[salomonskater]

find teh rootz
.

[m.m.lunatic]

what a jew.

I think he's thai or some pacific islander, but w/e

[bostonsk8er]

He wantz us to find vg rootz? Ror35 iz mamba?

[rollerboots666]

I think he's thai or some pacific islander, but w/e

Shima is half Japanese & half French American & half size.

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

We need a Kelso's brothers company !

chicken skin skate company

[Flandangle]

http://i.imgur.com/YsZ2y.gif