View Full Version : USD imperials, only $350 complete
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 00:44
LOL, wow what a savings. Wouldnt you just get the carbon at that price? You can't just make a skate and call it "price-point" for fun and then charge whatever you feel like..
If you want a "price-point" skate from USD, just buy thrones.
*crooked*
19.04.2011, 00:50
sick
tdskate01
19.04.2011, 00:55
poor guy mad?
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 01:28
poor guy mad?
No not mad, no desire to get them. Just laughing at the concept.
blowakilo
19.04.2011, 01:30
poor guy mad?
lol cram it fgt
sharkyROL
19.04.2011, 01:31
I think the concept started as a cheaper version of the carbons but then they realized that they put almost the same amount of effort and the production cost is not much lower so they had to place it at this price.
$350 for a complete skate is cheap as fuck. You Americans get away with the cheapest skates in the world.
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 01:35
$350 for a complete skate is cheap as fuck. You Americans get away with the cheapest skates in the world.
Our gas is cheaper too, you jelly?
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 01:36
Sorry, I mean petrol:)
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 01:36
And booze^^
I'll stick with my 150 euro thrones.
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 01:37
Cigs
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 01:39
I'll stick with my 150 euro thrones.
Just got some coup de tat thrones w/juice plates and blank liners, I love them.
Sorry, I mean petrol:)
Not really I ride a motorcycle, $12 every 2 weeks!
formerly galenaskater
19.04.2011, 02:01
350$ for skates isn't bad. they'll last you a while. my skateboarder friends go through a 50$ deck 2-3 times a month and are lucky if a 80$ pair of shoes lasts a month.
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 02:05
Not really I ride a motorcycle, $12 every 2 weeks!
How much per litre is it there now?
sharkyROL
19.04.2011, 02:15
How much per litre is it there now?
About 1,75$/liter here.
Village Idiot
19.04.2011, 02:17
yep.
Around $1.50 / litre here.
Boycott if you want to miss out on good skates
They are pretty tiny fitting btw. I likes the flex of the carbonz much better.
Brodye Chappell
19.04.2011, 04:43
Just got some coup de tat thrones w/juice plates and blank liners, I love them.
Sick! Pics?
$350 for a complete skate is still a significantly lower price compared to the cost of Carbon 2's (which cost the same for just the boot). don't think The Conference ever said that they would be "price point" skates. That was just speculation by you kids.If I remember correctly, they were always referred to as a cheaper alternative to the Carbon 2's, which they are. However, I agree with the people who think that if you're going to spend that much on skates, you miight as well save a little extra and get the Carbons instead.
spaniard
19.04.2011, 05:30
Gonzalo speaketh the truth. No-one ever said they were price-points, they are a different concept very similar to Carbons, kind of like a carbon plastic hybrid or a re-booted Deshi. They feel good. They fit small. I personally haven't tried Carbons (I would love to) but I think Gonzalo's whole post was well put.
Harry Maynard
19.04.2011, 06:06
What are Imperials? And gas is $2.16 a litre in the UK right now.
2.28 per liter in Germany.
Thats... $8.43 per gallon
spaniard
19.04.2011, 06:13
What are Imperials? And gas is $2.16 a litre in the UK right now.
http://usd-skate.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=148%3Aimperialsample1&catid=45&Itemid=111
CerealGuy
19.04.2011, 06:29
wanna try carbon 2s and imperials..
unfortunately everyone in this country has girly small feet...Not that there is even a shop here...
Hey spaniard, could you send me a pair of each and I'll review them for you... I'll even pay the shipping...
Dreams are free...
I'm on salomos with the karbun soul plates at the moment...
I love the soul plates...
When you combine karbun souls and fluids the slide is so nice..
wanna try carbon 2s and imperials..
unfortunately everyone in this country has girly small feet...Not that there is even a shop here...
Hey spaniard, could you send me a pair of each and I'll review them for you... I'll even pay the shipping...
Dreams are free...
I'm on salomos with the karbun soul plates at the moment...
I love the soul plates...
When you combine karbun souls and fluids the slide is so nice..
where da pics?
john doe
19.04.2011, 07:03
Hey Oli. Remember back when the Carbon 2's were new and a bunch of people and I pestered you to post the exact measurements of each size? Then tried getting you to post the width or footbed shape. Now you say the Imperials fit small yet that means abso-fucking-lutely nothing with out some numbers behind it. Give us something man. We're trying to get skates that fit right and USD isn't doing shit to help.
spaniard
19.04.2011, 07:42
Hey Oli. Remember back when the Carbon 2's were new and a bunch of people and I pestered you to post the exact measurements of each size? Then tried getting you to post the width or footbed shape. Now you say the Imperials fit small yet that means abso-fucking-lutely nothing with out some numbers behind it. Give us something man. We're trying to get skates that fit right and USD isn't doing shit to help.
Ok I'm on it. Have requested such measurements.
I don't see many people complaining about the steep price of valos... Denim baileys boot only for $359! No carbon fiber! At least USD is trying to make the skating experience better for all of us not just making denim skinzz to match ours pantz and vestz....
LaGuigne
19.04.2011, 11:26
I'll stick with my 15 euro Salomon.
Fixed
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7573/capturedcran20110330175.png
2.28 per liter in Germany.
Thats... $8.43 per gallon
:shock:
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 12:18
Taken from Usd-skate.com
The Carbon is a dream skate for many skaters, yet it is also a high class product made of the most expensive materials used on an aggressive skate.
With the desire to make this new skate available to a lower budget we took the time to talk to companies about making special plastic blends that could serve to re-create the Carbon effect at a more affordable price.
After two meetings with DuPont we were told that they had the perfect plastic for us:
I think that the low price is how you are trying to market the skate. They are only $50 less than a complete carbon II setup on rw and amall, not sold.
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 12:26
Sick! Pics?
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae219/Zeattle/d5773d89.jpg.
Boycott if you want to miss out on good skates
You like teh imperialz?
jonathan
19.04.2011, 13:36
Taken from Usd-skate.com
The Carbon is a dream skate for many skaters, yet it is also a high class product made of the most expensive materials used on an aggressive skate.
With the desire to make this new skate available to a lower budget we took the time to talk to companies about making special plastic blends that could serve to re-create the Carbon effect at a more affordable price.
After two meetings with DuPont we were told that they had the perfect plastic for us:
I think that the low price is how you are trying to market the skate. They are only $50 less than a complete carbon II setup on rw and amall, not sold.
BOOM
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 16:36
^^ya, where would we get the crazy idea that Usd was marketing them to be a price-point skate? Oh ya, from Usd..
^^ya, where would we get the crazy idea that Usd was marketing them to be a price-point skate? Oh ya, from Usd..
Nowhere in that quote you posted it says the skates are going to be cheap or low priced. It says they are going to be for skaters in a "lower budget" and that they'll be "more affordable". And they are both of those things. You (and everybody else) made up how much cheaper "more affordable" means on your own.
RollerBatioNation
19.04.2011, 18:47
The phrases "more affordable" and "lower budget" usually only mean that it will be more affordable to people on a lower budget, and 350 is not a low budget. Period.
The phrases "more affordable" and "lower budget" usually only mean that it will be more affordable to people on a lower budget, and 350 is not a low budget. Period.
Lower =/= low. You're pissed off because you made unwarranted assumptions but that's not USD's fault. Period.
Also, this doesn't bother me at all because I have zero interest in the Imperials to begin with.
Seriously, try and put up with prices like this, then complain about a $350 complete baller ass skate
http://www.skaterhq.com.au/browse/browse.asp?DeptID=150&CatID=1304
john doe
19.04.2011, 20:47
Seriously, try and put up with prices like this, then complain about a $350 complete baller ass skate
http://www.skaterhq.com.au/browse/browse.asp?DeptID=150&CatID=1304
Adjusted for the exchange rate, Australia has about the same average income as the US. Your Minimum wage is $15/hr and in the US it is $7.25. At a minimum wage job you have to work 25 hours to afford Aragon 4s. Americans have to work 41 hours to get the same.
klebanironcross
19.04.2011, 20:47
holy fuck $300 just for CULTS
Alex Coe
19.04.2011, 20:52
Prices, of ANY skate, would not be an issue if you were getting what you paid for. $350 for a great skate is always going to be reasonable. I'm sure that all of you commenting on the high price wouldn't care if you thought the skate was worth it.
THUS, let's argue about whether the skate sucks or not, and not how much it costs. I am very skeptical, because all skates pretty much suck, but I have high hopes! The new material is interesting and the higher cuff suits my desires. I always hate skates that supronate (right?), get floppy, or don't have enough padding in the liners to alleviate buckle/cuff/shell pain.
R-MONEY$$$
19.04.2011, 20:55
All I see in this thread is a bunch of bums complaining about the price of skates.
Alex Coe
19.04.2011, 21:02
All I see in this thread is a bunch of bums complaining about the price of skates.
EZ bruv.
R-MONEY$$$
19.04.2011, 21:03
k.
Blade Psycho
19.04.2011, 22:47
Prices, of ANY skate, would not be an issue if you were getting what you paid for. $350 for a great skate is always going to be reasonable. I'm sure that all of you commenting on the high price wouldn't care if you thought the skate was worth it.
THUS, let's argue about whether the skate sucks or not, and not how much it costs. I am very skeptical, because all skates pretty much suck, but I have high hopes! The new material is interesting and the higher cuff suits my desires. I always hate skates that supronate (right?), get floppy, or don't have enough padding in the liners to alleviate buckle/cuff/shell pain.
I'm pretty skeptical about Imperials because they seem like re-branded Deshis (and we all know how durable Deshis are)
SeanHunt3r
19.04.2011, 23:46
$350 for a complete skate is a pretty solid deal. Most boot only models right now are $300+. Then you need to buy wheels and frames. Frames are going to cost you on average about $40 and an anti-rocker setup will cost about $35....and that's on the "cheap" side of things. Anymore a quality frame set will run you $60-$80. So, essentially, one is saving $75-$100 by going with a complete Imperial setup.
That is assuming that one is interested in a soft boot produced by USD. If you don't like this price....don't buy the fucking skate. Easy as that.
RollerBatioNation
20.04.2011, 00:26
Much more interested in the new VII. Looks pretty solid.
If USD really wanted to make a baller ass skate they should just carbonize the ufs throne mold and make them fit a little wider like valo lights did.
john doe
20.04.2011, 06:51
$350 for a complete skate is a pretty solid deal. Most boot only models right now are $300+. Then you need to buy wheels and frames. Frames are going to cost you on average about $40 and an anti-rocker setup will cost about $35....and that's on the "cheap" side of things. Anymore a quality frame set will run you $60-$80. So, essentially, one is saving $75-$100 by going with a complete Imperial setup.
That is assuming that one is interested in a soft boot produced by USD. If you don't like this price....don't buy the fucking skate. Easy as that.
It's not some great deal. To put together the complete that aggressivemall is offering for for $349 piece by piece it comes out to $356. One of the good things about our industry is that custom skates aren't really more expensive then complete skates.
Alex Coe
20.04.2011, 08:17
I'm pretty skeptical about Imperials because they seem like re-branded Deshis (and we all know how durable Deshis are)
But... new plastic! With the strength of a feather... er rubber!
Fucking whiny bitches.
Noone said the imperial would be a price point skate. It has several carbon qualities while being less expensive than the carbon 2.
Here is what I see for USD's lineup/pricing structure:
Realms
7's
Classic thrones
Ufs thrones
Imperials
Carbon 2s
If you don't like how that goes, but some razors.
My next skate will be ufs thrones, imperials or carbon 2s
jonathan
20.04.2011, 09:39
Seriously, try and put up with prices like this, then complain about a $350 complete baller ass skate
http://www.skaterhq.com.au/browse/browse.asp?DeptID=150&CatID=1304
I don't understand why you're complaining. I checked the AUD's currency rate and the average wage. Live in the states and work the "Minimum" from your area and then talk about how easy you would have it in the United States. Things are slightly more expensive in Australia but on average, you get paid WAY more for the same work over here in the states. Stop it. I don't go to the gay bars and kick the cocks out of your mouth.
A Porsche boxster costs 140 gs here
And a pair of shima ones were costed at $650 when they were released...
jonathan
20.04.2011, 09:46
And you would make $970 per paycheck working at Burger King over there. What is your point?
You like teh imperialz?
I personally wouldn't skate them because of looks but I think they are the skate the Carbon always wanted to be: a light, yet strong one piece construction with both good support and decent flex.
I never agreed on the use of carbon fiber in an aggressive skate. They had to shoehorn an external cuff on it to make it work. As amazing as the skate works that way it is still a fail in terms of what they wanted to achieve with the Deshi Carbon in the first place.
All in all I am really happy what USD is doing with these skates. Both are undeniably far superior to any other skate on the market right now.
jonathan
20.04.2011, 09:55
I never agreed on the use of carbon fiber in an aggressive skate.
This deserves my rep.
DavidMMM
20.04.2011, 11:35
Fucking whiny bitches.
Noone said the imperial would be a price point skate. It has several carbon qualities while being less expensive than the carbon 2.
Here is what I see for USD's lineup/pricing structure:
Realms
7's
Classic thrones
Ufs thrones
Imperials
Carbon 2s
If you don't like how that goes, but some razors.
My next skate will be ufs thrones, imperials or carbon 2s
For your information RollerBatioNation already has a pair of Razors!! So there!! Stick that in ur Pipe!! And he likes boys, so watch out!!
RollerBatioNation
20.04.2011, 12:09
I'm seeing a common reply here that I'm whining about the high price...that is not the case. I can afford whatever skates I want, and in fact I have no interest in the imperials..
I am merely pointing out that a tiny price gap like $50 between your "elite" and "budget friendly" skate isn't that great of a price break. I don't see the point, and if anything I'm bitching on the behalf of people who may actually be on a budget.
Since this price friendly skate obviously costs almost as much to produce as the carbon, it seems like their effort would be better spent developing a super high quality product for USD hardboot fans. Like maybe a carbon shelled ufs throne...
R-MONEY$$$
20.04.2011, 12:16
If you can afford what ever skates you want than stfu and get back to your life, big baller.
RollerBatioNation
20.04.2011, 12:28
If you can afford what ever skates you want than stfu and get back to your life, big baller.
If you are allowed to waste time out of your $$life$$ to tell me to shut the fuck up, then Im allowed to waste my time talking about shit relevant to the rollerblading industry on a rollerblading messageboard.
And if you actually read what I posted and didn't just want to be right then you would see I make a valid point on the behalf of consumers in our industry.
R-MONEY$$$
20.04.2011, 12:42
I don't have time top actually read what you wrote.
RollerBatioNation
20.04.2011, 12:44
That's cuz you're too busy in gregs mcdonalds thread:( I'm hurt:(
DavidMMM
22.04.2011, 11:49
For your information RollerBatioNation already has a pair of Razors!! So there!! Stick that in ur Pipe!! And he likes boys, so watch out!!
What this guy said..:)
For your information RollerBatioNation already has a pair of Razors!! So there!! Stick that in ur Pipe!! And he likes boys, so watch out!!
I don't give a fuck what skates anyone has. I'm just saying if you don't want to pay 289 for imperial boots, or 350 for a complete, buy ufs thrones, or anything else in their lineup.
And even if he does like boys, I'm not worried, even hammered homos wouldn't fuck with me, I'm fat and not very attractive to start with.
machtroua
22.04.2011, 13:57
All I see in this thread is a bunch of bums complaining because the dollar is too low
.
CerealGuy
26.04.2011, 07:51
Ok I'm on it. Have requested such measurements.
soo..... where are they?
wanna order the carbon 2s but dont know the size.......
spaniard
26.04.2011, 08:13
I posted the Carbon 2 info last year, its the imperial I'm waiting on. Imperial I would one size bigger yourself.
Carbon 2 sizing.
http://theconference.org/conf_blog_wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Carbon2Sizing.jpg
CerealGuy
26.04.2011, 08:37
I posted the Carbon 2 info last year, its the imperial I'm waiting on. Imperial I would one size bigger yourself.
Carbon 2 sizing.
http://theconference.org/conf_blog_wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Carbon2Sizing.jpg
ohhhh snap, thanx! i couldn't find them after looking...
are there any width sizes anywhere?
spaniard
26.04.2011, 08:42
No, I'm afraid not :/
They are wider than Thrones, that's for damn sure. I didn't find them narrow at all when I skated the Deshi's.
CerealGuy
26.04.2011, 08:58
(i'm still talking about the carbon 2's)
which thrones? ufs of classic?
do they share the same size as the carbon 1's, deshi carbons or usd carbon 1's??
i thought they were all different...???..
spaniard
26.04.2011, 09:01
Any Thrones, thrones are narrow.
They are Deshi sizing minus 1. So if you have tried a size 9 Deshi Carbon you need a USD Carbon 2 size 8.
CerealGuy
26.04.2011, 09:23
really?... i tried on classics and ufs in the same store and found the 1 to be much narrower, cant remember which...??... different liner issue maybe...
now i'm real confused, just measured my foot with a ruler and got 26.1cm.
my salomons are marked as 43 1/3 and the inner soul is 26.7
shit...
doesn't help at all, looks like a trip to the shoe store for proper measuring equipment is in order...
in the mean time, if the width measurements do show up let a brother know?
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