Question(s) about roces graal lace up

[trskid]

i was wandering if anyone has sk8ed any or has some if they could tell me how they sk8ed. i heard they are rally soft on the feet and thats what i need. so i was wandering if you would leave some reviews of what you liked and what you didnt like about them, thanks

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[Nino]

i was thinkin bout getin the 04 black but somoene sat the ufs doesnt line up u gota drill it and crap

[the anhedonia trap]

i had a pair of the first graals and really liked them for the most part. ^hes right about their being problems with the ufs holes. i dunno if there are on all sizes, but on some of the the ufs holes are really far back on the soul frame. its weird, they put two sets of holes, one for the stock frame and one for ufs. all i did was redrill the holes on each soul frame and they were fine. i say get them, i really liked mine.

[trskid]

k thanks guys, any more reviews, or likes and dont likes

[Grizzly Adams]

I just put mine back together to skate them again. They are REALLY REALLY REALLY comfy. The Bio-mex system is definatley interesting too. That is the kind of idea skate companies need to be looking into and expanding on. I really doubt you'll be disappointed.

[steve103]

well i had white grall laces,, i liked them some what but really when it comes down to it their are so many other better skates. they dont really last that long and they are a pain to repair

[ty]

i love them. and that guy is right....biomex is such an incredible innovation, every skate should use it (but i think roces has the patent on it). and the memory buckle is awesome too...

really comfortable, flex is amazing, liner is great (another innovation...2 piece liner..gotta see it to know how it works).

[trskid]

and i heard they were sort of skinny on the foot and they ran small a little is that true?

[ty]

they are 'normal' at the foot. if you have a huge foot probably best to get razors or maybe psirus'...

my foot is a moderately wide size 10, and it fits fine

[trskid]

k cause i have a wide foot, so if i wear a size 9 razor and im at the tip, what size should i get

[ty]

oh and regarding the UFS holes, it's not completely out.

ground controls worked no problem. um...i tried wysong freestyles, they worked perfect, mooks needed a little push...the only frame that i had to shave the midsole a little were my ables. but it wasn't too hard to just shave around the indent with a chisel

[ty]

i don't know, i'm a perfect size 10 and every roces skate i've ever had i was able to buy size 10 and have them fit fine. i think they've got enough experience making skates to be able to make them the proper size.

i would say a size 9? maybe a 10...go try them on. don't forget roces uses some pretty thick ass memory foam so there's plenty of room for it to mold to your foot

[trskid]

i wish i could try some on, where i live none of the shops sell roces

[Plowman]

well, heres my mini review:

Liner: best part of the skate, i think its the best part of the skate.. it sucks you cant remove it, though.. they really start to funk up. they lock your heel in good, and the padding on the top of the cuff is cool too. fat tongues make it so your not gonna feel the buckle leaning forward, and yes..

Frames: good frames, but not worth skating if your gonna buy new ones anyway. the axels are 5mm (i think, my ground control axels wont fit into the spacers), and the screws stick out, slowing you down on ledges and (later) becoming worn down so you cant undo the screws. but meh, you probably wont skate em anyway.

Wheels: pure shit. good for about 2 weeks (if that) and then they decore like nothing.

Souls: probably my most hated part of the skate, and it has mnothing to do with the size or anything.. the backslide has no groove, and it was hard for me to wear a groove in, and when i tried to wear a groove in id wear near the front part of the soul instead, because the royale was deep... it was wierd, and it could have been my style of skating. the souls are also made of a weak material, so in about a month youll feel like you have sluggish souls. and the souls are hard to find if you wanna replace them.

and yes.. theres my mini review.

[trskid]

so to you are they good or bad

[Plowman]

i liked how they felt with the liners, but it cant make up for the souls wearing out so fast.

id have to say dont get em

[trskid]

k thanks for your opinion

[steve103]

ya the souls did wear really fast the stock frames suck but dont worry about that. the biomex is really nice thats what i like about the skate but personally i did not like the liner at all or buckle, but if you are looking to see what skate is better remz, roces, razors, salos i think every skate beats the roces but the new m12s are great, they are like the graals but way better

[trskid]

i dont like the m12, tghe reason i was look at the graal is that i hear they are very confortable and easy on the heels and stuf and thats what i need cause my feet are so bad i skate for more than 45 straight and my heels are just pulsing+ the m12 are just the m3's with the ufs soles plates arent they ?

[Grizzly Adams]

I'm not sure how fast the souls wear out, but as a bonus, they come with the stock frame/soul as one piece, with an extra soul plate for UFS frames, so you kind of get 2 if you get desperate and need to skate the stock frame. I think they probably run a tad big? I think that's what Inline warehouse's sizing chart says at least.

[trskid]

and if i had to, i would cut the ufs frames off and screww those souls on and make it work!

[tooRoL4life7]

While we are on roces...how are the ufs m 12s? they look sick i was thinking about roces so tell me plz

[ty]

they look very nice. i had the non-UFS M12's and they were great...only thing i ever disliked were how they pushed the front of the frame inwards to give you more sole space (had to do this back in the day, cause we had crap all sole rom). but now it's UFS i think they've put it back in the middle so it should skate normally again. i would get them....if it wasn't for valo...i think i'll get valo instead:) but M12 is a good option if you're broke or can't be stuffed waiting

[trskid]

so bottom line are they good or bad

[Graal]

good

[Royal Roller 2]

they're good

[ty]

i'd have to say get them. i just went for another skate today and was reminded of how awesome they are

[trskid]

k thanks

[skatefruitboot]

they feal way more leaning foward than any other skate ive tryed.. if your into that

[trskid]

sort of like the deshi dk1 are when they are new? if you know what that feels like