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jakeordie
10.05.2009, 14:36
These frames have a lot of potential, so I bought a pair to play around with. What I say here applies to my skating style, so take it as you will.

The good;

- Light one-piece construction
- Big split & rockering options for flat & flat-rocker setups
- One-tool axles with a big flat metal face like original M12 axles.....METAL!!
- Metal spacers loose-fit in the frame, so there's no drag or torque on the bearings when you crank the axles down

The bad;

- Groove is insufficient for big middle wheels or flat-rocker options
- Frame is a little tall for given max wheel options

Here's pics of the work I did;

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43/jakeordie/Mill.jpg

Facing a few mm off the top.I don't have UFS buttons on the Salomons (just frame bolted to the boot), so I don't need the UFS holes and would rather lose 3mm extra height. Not recommended for aggressive street skating, but flowing park should be fine. And I shaved the sidewalls so the bolts touch for soul tricks.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43/jakeordie/Max.jpg

Here's the profile with lowered stance & wider/closer sole.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43/jakeordie/Setup.jpg

I've been brainstorming fixes for the groove, but anything I get on there is gonna be a pug-fugly hack job.....more so than the rest of my skates. :lol: :lol:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43/jakeordie/PV.jpg

Setup with Flywheels that are worn to 60mm-ish and Hulgreens flat-rockered....this setup rolls FAST AS HELL!! If Kizer get the groove sorted & use Al's trick for 56s rockered up, SlimLine 2s are gonna be :shock: :shock: .

Mudhut Jollyrancher
10.05.2009, 15:05
why would you want the bolts to touch on soul tricks?

joeymc
10.05.2009, 15:13
Woah. That frame setup looks like it would feel like rec skate speed and maneuverability but with grinder capabilities.

I passed on the Slimline for now because of the height. I have my massive box of 57's that I want to use... But without being able to rocker them up I would be in awkward town on my skates.

Apart from the huge air in that picture being awesome. That picture is awesome because it looks like it could have came from a lost issue of Daily Bread. That's a good thing!

Is that frame setup going to be too long for your Carbons?

jakeordie
10.05.2009, 15:33
I want the bolts to touch 'cos I don't grind on real street anymore, just park metal.

If I can shoehorn 62/58 into SlimLine 2s and shave 'em like this, they'll be low as it goes. My mate Dale from Brisbane was here so I dragged him out to shoot the old dog on skates. The frames are a little longer than I'd like (and they're gonna look way too long on Carbons) but it's not a big problem for my skating style.

UnknownPleasures
10.05.2009, 15:46
That picture is fucking sweet.

And the frames look so much better with the sides shaved down.

But like you said, thats only going to work well for park.

s.
10.05.2009, 16:47
post the pic of your v-cut :D

jakeordie
10.05.2009, 17:10
post the pic of your v-cut :D
http://www.totalleh.com/beta354.gif

s.
10.05.2009, 17:17
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/842/iconmadip3.gif

Special ED
10.05.2009, 20:24
if the middle bolts stick out more, they will be fast as fuck on coping. i used to do that on my park setup senate frames.

justinthursday
10.05.2009, 22:23
pretty nice
i shave down the ufs nubs on all my souls so i can slide the frame forwards or backwards depending on what will work better.
and having your bolts lsiding on coping will be nice
i skate wayyy too much street for that to be practical for me.
but i use 5050s and salomon frames with the humw inserts so theyre plenty fast on coping :).
but i like your design far more than the stock version.
also, i have never run into a durability problem or any kind of problem with not having the ufs nubs
the groove for the frame in the souls has always been enough

mikefalcone
10.05.2009, 22:49
I'm riding the frames too and I like them. I'm riding 60mm face wheels flat. If I was going to fix one thing on them it would be the groove. If it wasn't so deep and wide and was instead smaller and shallower it would keep big wheels from hitting. The way they have them the groove is just too deep.

I also think the holes in the frames for the rockers are too big and my rockers don't feel like they are held solid.

Other than that, they're ok.

Grasshoppa
10.05.2009, 23:33
jesus christ those frames are fucking tall i was almost going to buy some and skate flat but forget all that. thanks for saving me a shitload of money.

zacharias
11.05.2009, 01:12
This makes me wanna skate my v-cut salo's again...

Dielawn
11.05.2009, 01:12
I think the small Salo souls make the frames look taller, they weren't that bad when I tried them out on a friends skates.

jakeordie
11.05.2009, 01:23
56s rockered up on SlimLines is just a little taller than ideal, but nothing like the Switch frame or even the Elements. It's amazing the difference a few mm of stance height makes.

justinthursday
11.05.2009, 01:49
This makes me wanna skate my v-cut salo's again...
exactly what im rocking :)
cut the liners and sewed them too :) :)

OI OI!
11.05.2009, 06:04
Does anyone know how big a wheel you could have in an RB Solo Estillo with these frames as apposed to the switch frame?

jakeordie
11.05.2009, 10:01
Does anyone know how big a wheel you could have in an RB Solo Estillo with these frames as apposed to the switch frame?
If you cut the web above the outer wheels you could probably fit 72s rockered down with Solo boots, but you'd have to run anti-rocker and the wheels would stick out the bottom of the frame all weird.

zacharias
11.05.2009, 16:01
This makes me wanna skate my v-cut salo's again...
exactly what im rocking :)
cut the liners and sewed them too :) :)

My souls are thrashed from cess-slides...might have to got buy a thin cutting board to makes some...or if night would just come back...

justinthursday
12.05.2009, 00:41
This makes me wanna skate my v-cut salo's again...
exactly what im rocking :)
cut the liners and sewed them too :) :)

My souls are thrashed from cess-slides...might have to got buy a thin cutting board to makes some...or if night would just come back...
i have some 7-8 night sym souls in great shape
this guy keeps saying hes gonna buy them but i keep not seeing the money..

zacharias
12.05.2009, 02:11
Do not know if I would like the symmetrical...they look like they would not work as well with the stock bs area(which I love).

justinthursday
13.05.2009, 02:30
Do not know if I would like the symmetrical...they look like they would not work as well with the stock bs area(which I love).
ive got 2 good sets of the stock souls too..

al dolega
13.05.2009, 12:57
The Symmetricals were designed for use with the Cult BSP, the Lo-Pro's were designed to be used with the bare boot backslide. Good luck finding either :(

lj_fanti
13.05.2009, 20:57
did u clamp ur frames onto a cnc machine? looks like a spindle and a table base there......

jakeordie
13.05.2009, 23:18
Yeah, it's running a real basic G-code program I wrote (I don't trust myself with more complex stuff yet). Sure is fun though. :D

denial06
14.05.2009, 19:11
setup is custom as fuck. good job jake