NEED LEGAL ADVICE: Slander over facebook?

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

So basically I returned home to find my 60 year old mothers roof that was rebuilt with new sheeting was done shoddilly and have had a few contractors point out the company who did it never replaced the worn timber around the edge and structually that rotted/old timber is supporting the gutters......

She's out $13,000 and it will cost me about $2000 minimum to fix it.


Can I make a Facebook page and basically list everything wrong they did and include pics?
The facebook name will be ******* ripped me off for a roof.

From what I have read if I'm taken to court as long as I have proof of their wrongdoing it wouldnt be such a large problem.

Anyone have any sites with law that deals with facebook?

[2 Chainz]

you should probably just set the roofing company's building on fire.

[Espen]

Have you tried contacting said company? In Norway we got laws concerning this kind of stuff (the bad building)...

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

Currently doing that, make appointment, wait three hours and take day off for appoitment....they dont turn up and when I rang state 'they have no appointment on books'


I'm thinking about getting the guy up on the 14 ft roof and kicking his laddder away so he cant get down...

[NathanC]

that would be illegal haha.


Endangerment or some shit. You should just slander the shit out of these assholes. Looks like you can back up your claims.

[B-Gault]

angieslist.com mang. dont know if its just a u.s. site though..

[wujcik]

you live in OZ...


Who knows what will get you in trouble.




In the US you could hit them with a reverse lien preventing them from getting building permits until the issue has been resolved. Visit your city hall and ask about your options.

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

I can't goto city council.

I went up on her carport roof because I have to take all the tin off of that, clean the rust off the frame (14ft long), re spray the whole frame and supports with undercaot and a rustkill paint.

Then Pay for someone I found who's legit to replace the roof and gutter and an electrician to redo all the lighting and cabling so thats waterproof.
Also dig trenched for the stormwater and get a plumber mate to connect that all including to a rainwater tank.

I WONT BE SKATING FOR A FEW MONTHS AND I WILL BE $10,000 OUT OF POCKET IF I HAVE TO FIX THE HOUSES ROOFING PROBLEMS AS WELL.

I checked the height with the council permit and the carport is too high , it seems someone fucked up with that 12 years ao when it was built..


Small claims court will cost $700 and the most you can get back for that is half of what the original roof cost.....$6000.


I'm verry stressed about this shit.

I need this guy...Mike Holmes
http://www.basementrenovationottawa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mike-holmes.jpg

[Monday]

I'd be super careful with that facebook thing...

[Josh_Morrison]

was it modern roofing?

and this is australia dude, fuck all will happen. US and UK maybe but not australia. theres facebook groups in perth who are dedicated to booze bus and speed camera locations

[Red Rider]

Contact the BBB and contact the bank or credit card company (whoever is making the payment). They may side with you and withhold payment to them.

[leiftheviking | phc]

What will the accomplish though? Call them and talk to them.

[Espen]

Burn the house down and blame them...if they did some improper work on the el system.

[Muppet4Eternity]

I'm not sure if this is true, but I believe I once heard you can't be done for slander over the internet because it isn't technically in a county, so they can't legally deal with it. Of course, laws are catching up with technology now, so they've probably closed that loop hole now.

[RoR35]

pics of said 60 year old mother? not really sure why u had to include her age. lmao

[JorgeKozanas]

Wasn't the internet created for porn and slander?

[gatsby]

are you all serious? i can't believe the amount of fear and hesitation about making a legitimate complaint

slander only apply to FALSE statements that harm somebody's or some company's image, and furthermore slander is the term for spoken statements. the written equivalent is called libel

you have every right to put them on blast if you cover your bases and document the shoddy nature of their work.

and on top of that, just use your head. unless we are talking about a major corporation with serious influence, you probably won't get caught in a libel case and even if you did it would get defeated

i would set up the page, make it private, and tell them if they do not settle this matter you have no other options but to expose their poor business practices

just make sure that they truly did do a bad job (photos, testimony from other roof workers who can back up your claims), and you are not overreacting. and also try to document the fact that you tried to be civil with them (waiting three hours for that appointment, maybe try one last time)

you all are walking around with your tails between your legs





Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. It is usually a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).[1]

[Quark]

Do not put them on blast, try to work out a deal.

Don't try to get even, try to get your mom what she paid for.

[chimbaktu]

Every time you call, you absolutely need to keep accurate records of everything. The person's name whom you talked to, the time, the details of the conversation, and set up a pattern to show in court that you did everything in your power outside of litigation to resolve the issue. And then take those assholes to court. You gain nothing and they lose nothing by you sitting idly, and setting up some lame facebook page. You really need to get a consultation and work with the legal system to at least mitigate your losses.

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

Thanks for the advice...

Got them coming in the morning and trying hard not to kick their ladder away and trapping them on the roof....


Got an structural engineer coming next week to write up a report.

One copy goes to their housing association, one to the government that licenses them, one to the government body that deals with shonky business practices.

[Cackslop]

pillowcase filled with masterlocks.

[fast eddie]

pillowcase filled with masterlocks.

Bars of soap are lighter and just as effective.


There's a diplomatic way to go about putting a shoddy company on blast.

For example, there is a terrible, terrible company that builds skate parks in the US called ARC (American Ramp Company). I've never been to an ARC made park that was not a bullshit waste of tax payer dollars.

Someone got the right idea and created a site that wasn't filled with libel, but facts and photo documentation of the shit products the company sells.

http://skatersforqualityskateparks.blogspot.com/

[norILroller]

i was in a situation kinda like this, but not as severe. i was contacted to do some design work for this screen printer a while back. i had worked with him before and he was a little sketchy but he did pay me decently and this time we had it worked out that i would hand deliver him the artwork on a disk and he would give me cash. anyway, he bails last minute and says he's overnighting me the check and to just email him the art, so i do and sure enough i never get my check the next day and he stops returning my calls. so i call, email, and text him multiple times a day for the next week telling him to call me back and let me know whats going on. i knew i got ripped off, so i found his companys facebook page so i took it upon myself to write on his wall about how he did business and i tagged him in a few posts too and told my story. after i did that i shot him a text saying something like "hey, since you decided to rip me off and wont return my phone calls or emails i went on your facebook page and posted how you like to do business with people" and that was all i said. IMMEDIATELY after i sent this he called me back flipping shit. he sent me the check right away though with a tracking number and everything and begged me to delete it (i dont think he knew he could just delete it). so if they dont get back to you, do what you have to man it worked for me.

[fast eddie]

i was in a situation kinda like this, but not as severe. i was contacted to do some design work for this screen printer a while back. i had worked with him before and he was a little sketchy but he did pay me decently and this time we had it worked out that i would hand deliver him the artwork on a disk and he would give me cash. anyway, he bails last minute and says he's overnighting me the check and to just email him the art, so i do and sure enough i never get my check the next day and he stops returning my calls. so i call, email, and text him multiple times a day for the next week telling him to call me back and let me know whats going on. i knew i got ripped off, so i found his companys facebook page so i took it upon myself to write on his wall about how he did business and i tagged him in a few posts too and told my story. after i did that i shot him a text saying something like "hey, since you decided to rip me off and wont return my phone calls or emails i went on your facebook page and posted how you like to do business with people" and that was all i said. IMMEDIATELY after i sent this he called me back flipping shit. he sent me the check right away though with a tracking number and everything and begged me to delete it (i dont think he knew he could just delete it). so if they dont get back to you, do what you have to man it worked for me.

Never do work without a contract :lol:

[Caddywumpus]

Never do work without a contract :lol:

Or just don't send the artwork before you get a check.

[fast eddie]

Or just don't send the artwork before you get a check.

I always send the artwork first, then invoice the client, per the contract we both sign before I do the work. If I don't agree with the contract, I won't accept the job, and the client has the right to do the same.

I don't know anyone in their right mind who would prepay for work to be done. Half up front as a deposit is pretty common, but never a prepay. Not for freelance work, at least. Franchises, sign shops, etc., probably more often than not.

[Caddywumpus]

I always send the artwork first, then invoice the client, per the contract we both sign before I do the work. If I don't agree with the contract, I won't accept the job, and the client has the right to do the same.

I don't know anyone in their right mind who would prepay for work to be done. Half up front as a deposit is pretty common, but never a prepay. Not for freelance work, at least. Franchises, sign shops, etc., probably more often than not.

That makes sense, but without a contract...at least cover it with watermarks or something until you get a check.

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

Bars of soap are lighter and just as effective.


There's a diplomatic way to go about putting a shoddy company on blast.

For example, there is a terrible, terrible company that builds skate parks in the US called ARC (American Ramp Company). I've never been to an ARC made park that was not a bullshit waste of tax payer dollars.

Someone got the right idea and created a site that wasn't filled with libel, but facts and photo documentation of the shit products the company sells.

http://skatersforqualityskateparks.blogspot.com/


HAHAHA they have built parks here too.

Pre cast ramps built by a playground builder