Topside help?

[HollyBoni]

i can't do topside tricks, but i really want to. any tricks or tips? would appreciate some help. note that i only have a squared rail, and a shitty flat grindbox.

[jonathan]

Learn stalls.

Stall a topsoul. Stall it ten times in a row. If you miss once, start again. Then go slow homie. roll up to that shitty flat grindbox and try sliding it a little. Do the same on the rail.

[HollyBoni]

i go REALLY slow, but i can't lock it in. but i'm trying it really hard. my shins are almost broken. :D

[jonathan]

i can't lock it in.

Think of tricks as a problem. You have to troubleshoot the situation. You are unable to lock the trick. Find a very small curb, and place your feet in that position. Work your feet in and around that position to get some idea of how much "play" you have before you slip out of that position. It's all about muscle memory. Practice stalling and locking in. Don't worry about sliding the trick. Just stall the trick. It seems extremely basic, but 80 percent of the tricks I learned, I learned by stalling them on tiny curbs.

[ift]

Something that helped me was skating at an angle to the ledge instead of parallel with it. Helps you slap it on there...

And bend your knees.

[norILroller]

bend your knees and have your topside foot under your crotch if that makes sense. thats how i figured them out years ago and it worked for me. also what trick are you trying? i think a topside acid is the easiest topside to learn on a box or square rail. maybe different for other people but on topacid you can get pretty low and your balance is completely centered opposed to a topsoul or sweaty where youre kind of at an angle. i think a topside pornstar was the first one i really got down but that was on a round rail, but you can also get low and youre pretty centered. hope that helps a little.

[HollyBoni]

thanks for the help guys. i trying to do a topsoul. my leg is more flexible inward than outward. so i can do a porn way more easier than an acid or mizou.

[Spy]

Just learning this shit myself here's some things that have helped my a lot.
Try to undershoot the ledge and coming in at and angle, Ill elaborate on top soul

I found myself having a really hard time locking in, id always overshoot and miss locking my soul on the side of the ledge killing my shins, I started aiming and inch or two off the ledge and found myself locking tricks more often, then if I really undershot i'd pretty much land on my feet.

when approaching with a little bit of speed, I found going parallel with the ledge, counter-intuitively, made things harder. I found coming in at an angle and trying to jump ontop of the ledge (instead of jumping and kicking my foot to the side to force the lock in) made locking easier and misses not nearly as deadly.

I dunno if you've had this issue, but with ny hblock foot (or royal foot, w/e) sometimes id put my heel down causing me to stick hard, by trying to get my toe pointed down the side of the ledge i found my balance shifted in a way that made holding topsoul much easier, it pretty much forced me to get lower and really trust being on my frame instead of rolling the trick

So, in short undershooting the ledge, coming in at and angle and trying to land directly ontop of the ledge has helped me a bunch.
Also, having a shin guard on your soul foot helps confidence by X10000000, misses don't matter then.

[ift]

Something with round coping can help you get the muscle memory whenever you get the chance, then it's a lot easier on a real ledge.

[Monday]

And bend your knees.He skates Xsjados...


















Shouldn't you be studying?

[ift]

YEAH

[Monday]

Ha

[ift]

Been learning material for this test for over two years and studying specifically for this test for at least three months, so...

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[Monday]

:cool:

[ift]

Back to the topic I can kinda do topsides and some ao topsides... sup with truespin topsides :?

[Monday]

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[DcharSSS]

it helps to bring your legs up to a topsoul instead of jumping on top of it, also if you approach too parallel it's much harder to fully lock get comfortable with coming in at an angle, bringing your soul foot up under your butt and lace that shit.

[hhhjjjkkklll]

look at your soulplates then do it

[DcharSSS]

Back to the topic I can kinda do topsides and some ao topsides... sup with truespin topsides :?
i feel like truespin topside soul is way way safer than ao topside soul
truespin ao top soul is kinda like doing a back farve for me
but ao top soul is like 270 back farve
hope this helped

[ift]

Yea I used to roll true topsouls and true top soyales on coping in like '99 but stopped for whatever reason. Had em on lock reg and switch on my prail in 2003... never was able to wrap my mind around ao topsoul on a ledge. So no that didn't help.

[dag.]

you can't learn from what other people tell you with this kind of thing. Just go out and skate, try them over and over, don't be a pussy. Just make yourself progress. skate fast, it'd be best to learn them on ledges first to make it harder, which makes it easier on rails later on. sometimes people just can't find the right foot they topside with. I did topsouls on handicaps with my right foot when i was learning and realized 3 years later that doing them with my left was sooooooo much easier after i got used to it.

[DcharSSS]

you can't learn from what other people tell you with this kind of thing.
you sound like an idiot man, me and my friends help each other to learn tricks all the time

[CerealGuy]

With shoes on.
when ever you are waiting for something or just standing still, practice the motion of bending your foot right over.

use a crack in the concrete and practice jumping onto that. your foot should just miss the crack so your imaginary frame can lock onto it.
walk along the crack, sweat stance - top acid - sweat stance, you will look a little weird but other people watching shouldn't think your too strange.

[wil747]

you can't learn from what other people tell you with this kind of thing. Just go out and skate, try them over and over, don't be a pussy. Just make yourself progress. skate fast, it'd be best to learn them on ledges first to make it harder, which makes it easier on rails later on. sometimes people just can't find the right foot they topside with. I did topsouls on handicaps with my right foot when i was learning and realized 3 years later that doing them with my left was sooooooo much easier after i got used to it.

me too anything topside is twice as easy switch

[J_Soda]

i have a real problem doing topsides on coping - im right footed but im left handed, so i naturally want to spin left, this makes doing a regular footed topsoul damn near impossible unless i do a 270. i can do switch topporns, though, but thats just like a unity with your foot switched.

also i stopped trying to topsoul after my soul foot slid out and i fucked myself, full force all my body weight onto my hip. then again onto my knee. the box i was skating was coping, it was a rainbow on one side and a regular box on the other, my foot slid across the top, so i fell onto the ground with my feet still on top. shit hurts man.

[HollyBoni]

wow, so many replies! thanks guys! i'll try everything today. but my right shin is fucked up, it's twice as big as the other. :D

i'm left handed and right footed too. but it's weird, because i do everything with my left foot except in skating.

[Muppet4Eternity]

I had a lot of difficulty learning to topside, and I found a really useful trick was to imagine that instead of trying to catch the side of the ledge with my soul, I would try to catch the top of the ledge with my frame. Worked a treat, I find them a lot easier now.

[marshun]

what helped me when i was younger was visualizing myself doing the trick.
then doing stalls till it felt close to my visualization.
then trying that trick.

hopefully that helps.

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

I can only do topsides souls on coping because I alws have to have that soul foot on a second before my front foot.

Screws me up when trying them on any ledge without something like a bank to launch off of.

[HollyBoni]

i did my first topsoul today. im so happy now! my brain almost exploded, i practiced for straight 3 hours and couldn't lock in that shit. then i watched my fav video (Eisler-Vine St), and did a shitty topsoul. feels good man!

[austin from texas]

i learned topsouls like back farvs. try locking on your front foot first, then use it as a guide for your soul foot. also, ive learned that personally, i have to almost lean backside, turning my hips till im almost backwards.

also try using your other foot if topsides arent happening.
ie. i do regular souls with my right foot and topsouls with my left

hope that was helpful

[HollyBoni]

fuck yes. i did 5 topsouls today. i can lock it way more better!

[ift]

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