View Full Version : UNDERCOVER wheels.... that chunked? help
So i just lobbed an e-mail over to the people at Undercover as well as Aggressivemall (where i ordered from) about wheels that i got. I know they were pretty cheap wheels but one of my wheels cored the first day of skating, and there was a big air-bubble / empty space between where the plastic center and the urethane connected. a second wheel chunked on the third day, with similair bubble problems.
has anyone had problems with this weel? im trying to get them replaced, i feel like richie eisler and demetrios, jeff, etc. wouldn't ride a shitty wheel, so i'm assuming it was a defect or something.
thoughts be-mag?
Blake Cohen
03.06.2009, 22:20
don't buy the blanks they are horrible get the pro wheels they are probably the best wheels i have ever used. The pro wheels are worth the extra money
buy eulogy, they never fail me
yeah ive had great luck with 4x4, and eulogy.... i just was trying to save some $... and now it cost me more. blah. frustrating
Why would a company make shitty wheels to begin with?
Http://starurethane.com/
YO GET EULOGY. THE PRO SERIES ONES WERENT TO BAD BUT STILL NOT AS GOOD AS EULOGY
freako24
03.06.2009, 22:48
The pro undercover wheels are the best wheels I have ever rode. I got the Eislers and they rock, all of my friends ride them as well and we all have had good experiences with them. Had them for about a year and they are just wearing down normally like a good wheel would, and they are just about the best gripping wheels I have ever had.
al dolega
03.06.2009, 23:24
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Yeah those blanks are horrible. The pro's are a different ball park all together, they keep sending richie protoypes to test he gives feed back, they make adjustments. I have a pair of richies as well, best wheels I've ever used.
kike mallahan
03.06.2009, 23:26
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Quoted for win.
jay cocain
04.06.2009, 00:34
Why would a company make shitty wheels to begin with?
Http://starurethane.com/
the one i got from you aj SUK DIK BIG TIME!
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I thought everybody knew already that the cheap undercovers are absolute garbage. The pro ones, on the other hand, are very good.
bilbo baggins
04.06.2009, 04:02
ive had the kelsos for a few months now and they were givin to me used (for about a month)
and hands down 2nd best wheels ive ever rode. the first being star.
but yes, i have never had a pair of wheels be so perfect even after being used...
its weird. no matter how you stop, these undercover wheels never change shape or flat spot.
Mike Donovan
04.06.2009, 05:04
Eulogy is by far the best i feel. I used to also love heat wheels because they were very similar but i think they started making them different and they are not as good. i have 4x4s now that are amazing so i dont think ill ever stray from Eulogy or 4x4. Also street artist wheels seem to be no good. My buddy had a set and hes not a big guy and by day two were very worn down and full of flat spots. He had to switch after 2 days which to me isnt right, if your going to start a company put out a decent product.
Blade Psycho
04.06.2009, 05:58
My buddy had a set and hes not a big guy and by day two were very worn down and full of flat spots.
Coring and chunking means that the urethane is of bad quality, but flat spotting is because of the way you skate and stop.
Every time I hear people complaining about flat spotting I wish I could slap them for being such morons.
Cheap wheels or not, they are unfit for purpose so you should definately get a replacement!
All these companies KNOW they are making shit wheels. Us as consumers should take less shit and get our complain on far more often than we do.
I'm with most people here, Eulogy are the best, although I feel there was a difference between the urethane some years ago and what they're producing now? In that it's not as good as it used to be? My fave wheels really were the Oli Short Blacklights, not really a fan of Oli but those wheels were AMAZING!
If rollerbladers actually sorted theirselves out they'd stop endorsing such WANK products, especially when all they're getting is minute pay cheques anyway!
On another note, I won't support STAR as well, they're distributed by a massive skateboard distributor, as with Nimh. Skater run and owned... What about the whole of the supply chain guys?
Blade Psycho
04.06.2009, 06:03
If rollerbladers actually sorted theirselves out they'd stop endorsing such WANK products, especially when all they're getting is minute pay cheques anyway!
Rollerbladers are cheap bastards so they'll buy crap quality wheels if it means they can save a few bucks. What you're proposing will never happen because quality wheels cost more and most rollerbladers are not willing to pay for quality. As long as there is demand for cheap, low quality products, companies will keep making them.
gambiacrumember
04.06.2009, 06:13
Why would a company make shitty wheels to begin with?
Http://starurethane.com/
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If rollerbladers actually sorted theirselves out they'd stop endorsing such WANK products, especially when all they're getting is minute pay cheques anyway!
Rollerbladers are cheap bastards so they'll buy crap quality wheels if it means they can save a few bucks. What you're proposing will never happen because quality wheels cost more and most rollerbladers are not willing to pay for quality. As long as there is demand for cheap, low quality products, companies will keep making them.
What I'm proposing is that "Professionals" back products that are actually worth backing. Rather than selling themselves out to SHIT products. Yes there may be shit wheels on the market, but those wheels shouldn't be the ones pushed by the "Pro's". I have no problem with low quality products at low prices, but there's a difference between low quality, and products that are not fit for purpose.
spaniard
04.06.2009, 06:28
Most wheels are poured in the same place, except the eulogies and the new UC pro-wheels, and a lot of pros get as many wheels as they want for free so if they get a paycheck and unlimited wheels its a no-brainer really.
Anyway, we will hook you up with new wheels no prob, if you can get us some pics.
Thanks.
fergus_oi_oi
04.06.2009, 06:45
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Quoted for win.
DanielBond
04.06.2009, 06:52
On another note, I won't support STAR as well, they're distributed by a massive skateboard distributor, as with Nimh. Skater run and owned... What about the whole of the supply chain guys?
I completely agree with you about everything you said except for this. I'm not sure what the logistics are of importing skates, wheels and other gear are, but presumably, if someone in blading wanted to do it and had the funds, they would do it. maybe no one else wanted to import Nimh and STAR? Maybe the distro makes the products cheaper for us and more consistent?
I don't know but i don't like boycotting products based on stuff like this. I'd boycott on the companies shitty attitudes to riders and the industry (Rollerblade) and shitty products (Deshi until the carbon) and massively inflated prices (Most of the industry, to be honest)
There is skater run distribution in the UK. Look at Devious aka Remz and Jug.
Fact of the matter is, I know that companies like STAR and Nimh have overlooked Devious. This totally negates their WHOLE ethos which in turn makes them brands I would NEVER support.
Bond, be prepared for HUNDREDS of pairs of Nimhs at rollersnakes at some point, as Shiners haven't got a fucking clue about how many pairs to order in, they're blatantly sat on PALLETS of Nimhs that are NEVER going to be sold. That is why Nimh deal with Shiner, cus they're retarded and have no clue. So be prepared for the market to be saturated with cut price Nimhs, something that is NEVER good for the industry!
mikey roman
04.06.2009, 08:36
the blanks suck, i went through 2 sets in 2 weeks but the pro wheels are the shit. pro wheels ride so nice and last a long time
buy eulogy, they never fail me
On another note, I won't support STAR as well, they're distributed by a massive skateboard distributor, as with Nimh. Skater run and owned... What about the whole of the supply chain guys?
I skateboard now? Please realize that I distribute the wheels and they aren't distributed by a skateboarder. You would really boycott our products that are distributed over in Europe by be-mag and TKC because TKC distributes skateboards as well? Is the owner of TKC some awesome skateboarder sitting in his office having a huge laugh while raking in marginal profits on the sales of our wheels?
Please understand that the shop you buy the wheels from makes the most profit, then the company you choose to support, then if it is outsourced, like STAR in the UK, the distributer makes a cut, the smallest cut at that.
If you were a distributer making the smallest cut on the products you put out, and didn't own any of your own products, wouldn't it make sense to stay in business by distributing as many things as possible?
I'ts nice to see people in-the-know set the record straight, cause be-rumors can promote disinformation. (daily bread throwback)
thanks heyzoos
Charlie Hustles
04.06.2009, 13:38
100% Skater Owned*
*But not 100% skater distributed.
If they are trying to be honest, that's what their shit should say. It's all about who your money is going to . . .
100% Skater Owned*
*But not 100% skater distributed.
If they are trying to be honest, that's what their shit should say. It's all about who your money is going to . . .
Well to be honest then I didn't know they were even skateboard owned, which I am sure they are not. Here is honesty, 94% of the gross sales of STAR are directly through skater owned distribution and skater owned companies. I can't speak for the shops.
98% of Vibralux is the same way.
100% Skater Owned*
*But not 100% skater distributed.
If they are trying to be honest, that's what their shit should say. It's all about who your money is going to . . .
why dont we boycott companies that use ups and fed ex as well? we need skater owned shipping companies.
there is no way around paying a middle man at some point, knocking Street artist for some pointless shit seems studpid
Mudhut Jollyrancher
04.06.2009, 13:54
100% Skater Owned*
*But not 100% skater distributed.
If they are trying to be honest, that's what their shit should say. It's all about who your money is going to . . .
why dont we boycott companies that use ups and fed ex as well? we need skater owned shipping companies.
there is no way around paying a middle man at some point, knocking Street artist for some pointless shit seems studpid
yeah whats next skater made skates
100% Skater Owned*
*But not 100% skater distributed.
If they are trying to be honest, that's what their shit should say. It's all about who your money is going to . . .
why dont we boycott companies that use ups and fed ex as well? we need skater owned shipping companies.
there is no way around paying a middle man at some point, knocking Street artist for some pointless shit seems studpid
haha well put with the fedex
SKATER OWNED plastic / fabric suppliers.
Blade Psycho
04.06.2009, 14:58
100% Skater Owned*
*But not 100% skater distributed.
If they are trying to be honest, that's what their shit should say. It's all about who your money is going to . . .
why dont we boycott companies that use ups and fed ex as well? we need skater owned shipping companies.
there is no way around paying a middle man at some point, knocking Street artist for some pointless shit seems studpid
haha well put with the fedex
SKATER OWNED plastic / fabric suppliers.
SKATER OWNED injection molding machines
ap_muh_fuckaz
04.06.2009, 15:13
i been riding the howard pro undercover's for a few months now and they're fucking awesome
some of the best wheels i've had, eulogy's were also very good
richie eisler
05.06.2009, 06:21
hi guys, don't know why i need to explain this but companies make different levels of quality for different budgets. obviously a porsche is better than a kia... also costs a lot more. no different with skating. there are cheap wheels for people who want cheap wheels. if you want a good wheel, buy the good ones. obviously quality is related to price. this is standard business practice in every industry in the world.
richie eisler
05.06.2009, 06:23
ps. the new pro wheels are the best wheels in skating. take it or leave it.
Blade Psycho
05.06.2009, 07:51
if you want a good wheel, buy the good ones. obviously quality is related to price. this is standard business practice in every industry in the world.
The problem is that it is not always obvious which wheels are good quality and which ones aren't. Assuming that the ones that cost more are good is not a good idea because there are a lot of name brand wheels that actually suck and still sell for full price.
my mate also got problems with the cheap undercovers,
another one is riding park only with the jeph howards and they are really fine
the difference between your car analogy is that kias dont explode after driving 500 miles.
undercovers explode after 5 hours.
yeah let me just set the record straight....
i understand there are wheels that wear quicker, (i.e. less expensive ones), but i'm telling you this particular group of wheels had a completely abnormal giant air-bubble under the urethane that caused it to blow up in 2 hours.
as you will see, the wheel itself is barely worn, but it blew out and revealed this big hole under the surface.
I'm not trying to bash undercover here at all, i bet their team wheels and pro-model wheels are definitely nice, and would be glad to write a positive review when i sample those... I e-mailed them and they are sending me another batch.
like jesus said there are 1-3% machine errors that occur, it happens.
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richie eisler
06.06.2009, 08:39
haha ok fair enough.
but your kia would explode if you jumped off roofs and skidded on parking barriers all day, every day!
but i gotta agree the cheap ones aren't so good. lucky for me i have a good supply of porsches! haha
uc is pretty good about stuff so hopefully they hook you up...
To close this topic....
Richie: the other wheels weren't quite as bad, it was definitely a weird bubble thats obviously not common with all of even the lower-quality UC wheels.
The good peeps over at UC are replacing the wheels with better ones and they responded to my emails and what not really quickly. In the e-mail i sent to them i said, i know richie is a really talented skater that wouldnt skate bad wheels, as is demetrios, who i have skated with before. I know i will enjoy the wheels they are sending me, and they have been really kind through the whole error.
props for professionalism by UC.
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