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mbarn
12.07.2009, 13:37
So I am getting back into skating again after a long hiatus. Skates now are so much different. There were no UFS frames. Soul plates were just being released and metal grind plates were the thing to have.

Anyways, I have done a ton of research trying to get a grasp on the new products. Which skates favor wide feet? My foot is a 10.5 in length but I usually wear a size 11 to compensate for the width.

How do the remz open shell design compare to razor in regards to flexibility?

I am looking to purchase a new pair of skates but am really torn as to which brand to try first. Any suggestions?

Also I see that everyone uses anti-rocker setup. When I stopped everyone used all of the same size wheels. What is your opinion on that?

Thanks in advance for your help.

-Mike

KillerCucumber
12.07.2009, 14:06
Ive been skating since 97 and its changed soooooo much since then. No one gives any one a hard time about skating flat or anti or even without middle wheels anymore, its all about whatever feels right. I still skate flat but thats because I am a speed freak and the frames now adays are so big that you can ride 58 mm wheels flat and still have a bigger gap between your wheels than you could riding anti rocker on the old fifty fifty frames from 99. As far as wide foot friendly skates go (I have the same problem) Remz OS skates in a half size larger will fit you perfectly. The flex between them is very similar. If you ride a high cuff on rems it feels alot like razors, and vice versa on the Razors. Razors Genesys boots are the best though for wide feet, its a very wide shell and skates very well. Valo, UFS thrones, and the SL Razors boots are a little bit harder for the wide feet to fit into. Shadow skates suck, but you might like skating in Fisher Price quailty sktes, I dont know you so I guess I shouldnt assume. Every thing else is good buts its all about trying and figuring it out. I really would recomend getting a pair of Razors Genesys boots as they are cheap and good quailty and if you wear a size 10 1/2 you could order a 10 1/2 and be just fine.

portrait of a gentleman
12.07.2009, 14:11
First off, welcome back to rollerblading. Yes, everything is very different now, and skate technology has come a pretty long way from how it was. If you wear a 10.5-11, and have the money to spend, the USD/Deshi Carbons are supposed to be incredible. If you don't have $350 for just a boot, I would say Xsjados (love them) but you won't be able to fit the smaller shell sizing (only goes up to about a 9.5) so the larger shell size is going to feel like you're wearing boats. Honestly, if you've got wide feet, I would probably recommend the Razors Genesys or SL boot. People seem to like both, and the Genesys shell is almost designed for wider feet. In regards to your question about the OS Remz shell, they will be MUCH more flexible than a Razors boot, which can be a good or bad thing, depending on how much flex you like. I personally hated them when I tried on a friend's, but to each his own.

Anti-rocker and freestyle setups are definitely more prevalent these days as apposed to a decade ago, but again this is a personal preference; speed and maneuverability vs. ease of grinding/sliding. Personally, I switch back and forth a lot, depending on my mood and if I think I can handle skating flat again, which almost never pans out too well. If you want to continue riding flat, (and again, if you have the money for it) I would go for a slightly smaller wheel (around 53/54mm or so) mounted with either the Kizer Element or Slimline frame, which retail for about $70-80. Both frames have huge splits and are basically made for riding flat. Otherwise, if you want to cross over to the anti/freestyle side, go with a bigger wheel (anywhere from 55-60mm) inside of basically any frame that fancies you. Ground Controls, 50/50, and Kizer Fluids are all good standbys.

Hope all that helps, and let us know what you get. Post pictures of course as well.

zacharias
12.07.2009, 15:38
Razor gens with Valo frames flat. The Razor gen boot will fit a wide foot and a valo frame is cheap, durable, and slides nice. The groove of the Valo frame will be like all the older frames your used to no huge monster grooves. Plus you may wanna ride a cheaper set up getting back into it just in case you drop out again or can not come up with the time.

Alex Coe
12.07.2009, 17:35
I'm going to say Razors Gen boot but get a 9 because you're going to want your skates smaller compared to when you used to skate and skates were so skinny you got two sizes larger.

KillerCucumber
12.07.2009, 19:25
I'm going to say Razors Gen boot but get a 9 because you're going to want your skates smaller compared to when you used to skate and skates were so skinny you got two sizes larger. Dude said 9 years, not 19. maybe drop to a ten, but with a wide foot in a gen boot its smarter to get actual shoe size.

Monday
13.07.2009, 16:25
So I am getting back into skating again after a long hiatus.

Welcome back! :twisted:

Make shure to inform all of your skating-friends from back then that you are back in the game and down for a session... ;)

Don’t buy stock frames (except maybe Valo)and get a nice set of large wheels with at least Abec 5 bearings. As for the Remz Os, you can also put the higher Razors cuffs on them to make them a bit less flexible. You’ll need a different liner then.

I would suggest you order you skates in different sizes and return the pairs that don’t fit. You may want to ask your dealer if you’re allowed to experiment with differen liner- and shell-sizes so you can find out what fits you best.

If you put together some custom-setup from different parts of differnet manufacturers, ask for a discount.

I can’t give any advices regarding the wide foot, because I thankfully don’t have this problem... :)

Elk
13.07.2009, 17:00
Razors are huge wide and solid skates.
Also the new Rollerblades are good.
Nimh boots (especially the Shima 1) are about $130 now. They are actually old Razor boots with the toe cut off and a skin on them. People love those.

I wouldn't recommend anything other than a cheaper hard-boot skate for a purchase at this time. Things like Carbons and Xsjado skates are probably not what would you'd be looking for, especially as the cost is so high and most people have a love/hate relationship with them. They're a refined taste.


P.S. You guys forget that 9 years ago was 2000. Things like OG Remedyz, Khutis, USDs, Salomon, and Razor Lievanos skates were available for purchase.

al dolega
13.07.2009, 19:49
Genesys are probably a good choice, if you're actually a 10.5 on a scale I would go with a 10 or maybe even try the 9. Razors are always a pretty good neutral choice, pretty much anyone can put a pair on and do their tricks.

Remz, I would stay away from for now, they're much more of a love-or-hate skate.

Nimhs are a solid choice too if it's just your forefoot that's wide, if your arch is wide or flat they might not work though.

Xsjados are super comfy but you're in the worst size for them and for an oldschooler they might just be too weird/different.

Valos, stay away from if you have wide feet.

Overall though, don't sweat it too much, just grab something that feels good, and get out and skate!

Blade Psycho
13.07.2009, 22:02
If you have wide feet, you can't go wrong with Genesys-style Razors. They are probably the most well-rounded skates out there, as long as your feet are fat enough to fill out the shell so you don't get too much heel lift.

Rollwear
19.07.2009, 12:15
yea just bought a some remz Os2s. i like them a lot but theyre deffinatly not as comfertable as other skates would be for some one with fat ass feet like myself. i do wish that i bought some gnesys or icons.

mbarn
21.07.2009, 01:24
I ended up buying the Razor G5's from mayerfan with the Jug Liners, Redz bearings and replacement grind plates and souls. I like them so far. I find that the Jug Liners are too tight on my feet and actually hurt. The stock liners are perfect.

RollerBatioNation
21.07.2009, 14:24
I hear you there, the stock gen liners are great. I personally like most skates I buy to have stock liners. Puffy after-market liners make the sizing weird.

psychkub
26.07.2009, 23:07
I ended up buying the Razor G5's from mayerfan with the Jug Liners, Redz bearings and replacement grind plates and souls. I like them so far. I find that the Jug Liners are too tight on my feet and actually hurt. The stock liners are perfect.

get rid of the grind plates, no one uses them anymore.

Monday
27.07.2009, 09:09
I think he meant the backslide-plates... ;)