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Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 17:14
I know that this has been asked before, but I forgot the answer. I heard that Kizer Slimlines (I think) are abnormally tall. Is this true?

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 17:15
5050 cores

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 17:16
5050 cores

Those look horrible for flat. The groove does not look large or wide at all.

ivan_dalou
17.07.2009, 17:16
slimlines

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 17:18
5050 cores

Those look horrible for flat. The groove does not look large or wide at all.
i skate them flat and it works well for me, the groove really doesn't have to big at all(wide grooves feel nasty anyway) the wheels are just farther from the groove so they really don't interfere with grinding

Chris Fortune
17.07.2009, 17:19
i tried skating my 50/50 cores flat... did not want.

but then again I don't think the frame would matter in my case. I don't know how i used to do it when i was like 13.

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 17:20
slimlines

Are they abnormally tall? This is what I have heard.

ivan_dalou
17.07.2009, 17:22
slimlines

Are they abnormally tall? This is what I have heard.

thats what they made them for mainly i thought to be able to skate flat with a big h block.
idk ive seen em a few time they look good.

Monday
17.07.2009, 17:25
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/622/yyyyyyyy.jpg

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 17:26
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/622/yyyyyyyy.jpg :shock:

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 17:27
if you're unable to skate flat
you suck at rollerblading
just throwing that out there

DANNY!
17.07.2009, 17:28
Slimlines Charlie, simply the besttttttt

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 17:36
Slimlines Charlie, simply the besttttttt

They are not tall and goofy looking? That is what a reliable source told me. I wish Epochs actually came out.

Chris Fortune
17.07.2009, 17:39
if you're unable to skate flat
you suck at rollerblading
just throwing that out there

If you've only been a teenager for 2 years, you shouldn't be telling people who were doing this before you were born what makes you suck at rollerblading

Just throwing that out there.

ivan_dalou
17.07.2009, 17:40
if you're unable to skate flat
you suck at rollerblading
just throwing that out there

If you've only been a teenager for 2 years, you shouldn't be telling people who were doing this before you were born what makes you suck at rollerblading

Just throwing that out there.

pwn

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 17:44
if you're unable to skate flat
you suck at rollerblading
just throwing that out there

If you've only been a teenager for 2 years, you shouldn't be telling people who were doing this before you were born what makes you suck at rollerblading

Just throwing that out there.touche

941MAN
17.07.2009, 17:46
50 50 has the most solid flat frames

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 17:47
Dominic Sagona skates anti.

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 17:48
i said unable
people can have preferences

Rotgut
17.07.2009, 17:49
skating flat is all about finding a groove that isn't deep to begin with. This may just be rumor but I heard the new 50-50 frames have a lower groove. I could be wrong. I haven't rode them but the kizer frames seem to have too big of a groove for riding flat. You want a frame that covers your wheels as much as possible.

If that 50-50 rumor is true I'd go with those. Ables also worked well for flat cause that big ass h-block

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 17:50
skating flat is all about finding a groove that isn't deep to begin with. This may just be rumor but I heard the new 50-50 frames have a lower groove. I could be wrong. I haven't rode them but the kizer frames seem to have too big of a groove for riding flat. You want a frame that covers your wheels as much as possible.

If that 50-50 rumor is true I'd go with those. Ables also worked well for flat cause that big ass h-blockthe classic ones?
i heard that too but i also heard the split isn't as wide as the cores

austin sullivan
17.07.2009, 17:52
50/50 core balance frames hands down. Been riding 57mm paz wheels flat on them and have had no problems whatsoever with wheel bite. Though i wouldn't suggest riding 57mm wheels flat if you are new to it or haven't ridden flat in a while. Up to 55mm would be perfect for someone that is not used to flat. Oh yeah also would ride bigger wheels (58mm) if my frames allowed since they are size small 50/50's the 1st and 2nd wheel would rub up against each other and not roll but that only applies for size small 50/50's.

Chris Fortune
17.07.2009, 17:53
skating flat is all about finding a groove that isn't deep to begin with. This may just be rumor but I heard the new 50-50 frames have a lower groove. I could be wrong. I haven't rode them but the kizer frames seem to have too big of a groove for riding flat. You want a frame that covers your wheels as much as possible.

If that 50-50 rumor is true I'd go with those. Ables also worked well for flat cause that big ass h-block


that's why I was disappoint in mine. I had the first UFS 50/50 frames and that groove was nice and low. Then I got my rachards and they are huge. Those white and carolina blue ones look like they have about the same size groove as the juice frames (which was awesome but I never skated them flat). I want the kizer stream (was it stream or steam?) frames back. Those were the best flat riding frames I ever had.

Rotgut
17.07.2009, 17:54
skating flat is all about finding a groove that isn't deep to begin with. This may just be rumor but I heard the new 50-50 frames have a lower groove. I could be wrong. I haven't rode them but the kizer frames seem to have too big of a groove for riding flat. You want a frame that covers your wheels as much as possible.

If that 50-50 rumor is true I'd go with those. Ables also worked well for flat cause that big ass h-blockthe classic ones?
i heard that too but i also heard the split isn't as wide as the coresNah, not the balance frames, the core frames. I saw some prototypes that appeared to have a much lower groove.

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 17:55
50/50 core balance frames hands down. Been riding 57mm paz wheels flat on them and have had no problems whatsoever with wheel bite. Though i wouldn't suggest riding 57mm wheels flat if you are new to it or haven't ridden flat in a while. Up to 55mm would be perfect for someone that is not used to flat. Oh yeah also would ride bigger wheels (58mm) if my frames allowed since they are size small 50/50's the 1st and 2nd wheel would rub up against each other and not roll but that only applies for size small 50/50's.
you think i could do 58s in large cores

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 18:00
Hmmm, these Cores sound like an interesting prospect. 50/50 has been down for blading since the beginning and I'd be happy to support them.

Rotgut
17.07.2009, 18:02
skating flat is all about finding a groove that isn't deep to begin with. This may just be rumor but I heard the new 50-50 frames have a lower groove. I could be wrong. I haven't rode them but the kizer frames seem to have too big of a groove for riding flat. You want a frame that covers your wheels as much as possible.

If that 50-50 rumor is true I'd go with those. Ables also worked well for flat cause that big ass h-block


that's why I was disappoint in mine. I had the first UFS 50/50 frames and that groove was nice and low. Then I got my rachards and they are huge. Those white and carolina blue ones look like they have about the same size groove as the juice frames (which was awesome but I never skated them flat). I want the kizer stream (was it stream or steam?) frames back. Those were the best flat riding frames I ever had.White and blue ones have a groove pretty damn close to the original frames. For the time being I'd go with the balance frames for flat over the cores just due to the low ass groove. But if what I think I saw was correct then the redesigned cores are gonna be the messiah of flat frames. As I said though this is all just speculation and going off of memory, which is sometimes distorted.

DANNY!
17.07.2009, 18:02
Slimlines Charlie, simply the besttttttt

They are not tall and goofy looking? That is what a reliable source told me. I wish Epochs actually came out.

Dog, I'm ganna take a pic of my boys remz you tell me if there goofy. By far the best frames I've skated, and soon as I get paid I'm coppin a pair forsure.

Rotgut
17.07.2009, 18:07
Hmmm, these Cores sound like an interesting prospect. 50/50 has been down for blading since the beginning and I'd be happy to support them.Im with you on that one. 50-50 is one of the last original blading brands out there. Jess and Lawrence are so down for blading that it's ridiculous. Much respect to the brand. Support companies that support blading

DANNY!
17.07.2009, 18:11
Hmmm, these Cores sound like an interesting prospect. 50/50 has been down for blading since the beginning and I'd be happy to support them.Im with you on that one. 50-50 is one of the last original blading brands out there. Jess and Lawrence are so down for blading that it's ridiculous. Much respect to the brand. Support companies that support blading

Yeah word I agree, but Kizer has been around for a while too. I'd def. support 50/50, and I've never even had a pair 8) just because of the love for rolling

jay cocain
17.07.2009, 18:11
gc high lo my naigga1

austin sullivan
17.07.2009, 18:19
50/50 core balance frames hands down. Been riding 57mm paz wheels flat on them and have had no problems whatsoever with wheel bite. Though i wouldn't suggest riding 57mm wheels flat if you are new to it or haven't ridden flat in a while. Up to 55mm would be perfect for someone that is not used to flat. Oh yeah also would ride bigger wheels (58mm) if my frames allowed since they are size small 50/50's the 1st and 2nd wheel would rub up against each other and not roll but that only applies for size small 50/50's.
you think i could do 58s in large cores

Yeah without a doubt you could do 58 in mediums or larges. Though like i said if your new to flat i wouldn't suggest it, have to without a doubt bend on all your groove tricks and do them proper. My groove from skating ledges is literally perfectly centered in the middle of the groove cause all the tricks i do i learned to lock/do them properly.

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 18:21
I skate small frames. Size 7, son.

austin sullivan
17.07.2009, 18:28
Get some small 50/50 core balance frames, which ever wheel size you feel comfortable with (53mm, 54mm or 55mm) up to 55mm you should be safe. Personally i like bigger wheels in any case but all about what feels good. Ride eulogy's flat as well, i think all other wheels are shit if you want a nice smooth and super fast ride get some eulogy's and craps in all of them. Should be safe getting Gonzo's, Egyptian team wheels, Dalnas or the Schrijns.

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 18:36
So . . . these ones?

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/revolutionskate_2064_9730173.jpg

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 18:43
So . . . these ones?

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/revolutionskate_2064_9730173.jpg
thats what i'm on

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 18:48
What the hell is that shit sticking out the side for?

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 18:51
What the hell is that shit sticking out the side for?
it's so your aren't grinding on the bolts
allso make soul tricks lock better and slide faster

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 18:52
Interesting. My Salomon frames actually have the opposite going on.

http://www.skates.com/v/vspfiles/photos/783871-2.jpg

I took the white things out.

I've been skating 2 different pairs of those things for like 5+ years.

941MAN
17.07.2009, 18:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5AckdxRKg

PA
17.07.2009, 18:56
http://www.rollerenligne.com/images/gammes2005/kizer_midget_2005.jpg

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 18:58
Epoch? Why doesn't Kizer or someone bite that shit hard and release them ASAP?

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 19:04
Interesting. My Salomon frames actually have the opposite going on.

http://www.skates.com/v/vspfiles/photos/783871-2.jpg

I took the white things out.

I've been skating 2 different pairs of those things for like 5+ years.
why'd you take them out?

PA
17.07.2009, 19:05
haha i think kizers epoch version is the elements frame.

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 19:06
Interesting. My Salomon frames actually have the opposite going on.

http://www.skates.com/v/vspfiles/photos/783871-2.jpg

I took the white things out.

I've been skating 2 different pairs of those things for like 5+ years.
why'd you take them out?

"I'm in that all black."

- Plies

ap_muh_fuckaz
17.07.2009, 19:07
I know that this has been asked before, but I forgot the answer. I heard that Kizer Slimlines (I think) are abnormally tall. Is this true?

yes slimlines are super tall, which i don't like but it's a matter of preference.

i say the best frames for flat are kizer elements, the new howard ones cuz they're lower than the original

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 19:07
Interesting. My Salomon frames actually have the opposite going on.

http://www.skates.com/v/vspfiles/photos/783871-2.jpg

I took the white things out.

I've been skating 2 different pairs of those things for like 5+ years.
why'd you take them out?

"I'm in that all black."

- Pliesthats such a lame reason

Charlie Hustles
17.07.2009, 19:10
thats such a stylish reason

I scraped off the red writing on my ST90 2's with a knife.

http://images.reviewcentre.com/sent-in/item73493.jpg

Mudhut Jollyrancher
17.07.2009, 19:12
thats such a stylish reason

I scraped off the red writing on my ST90 2's with a knife.

http://images.reviewcentre.com/sent-in/item73493.jpg :lol: you're such a character

justinthursday
17.07.2009, 23:16
5050 cores
best

Pulp
17.07.2009, 23:42
kizer fluids IMO
stock salo frames are great too.

jamie murrett
17.07.2009, 23:49
create originals, 4 fingers.

Rotgut
18.07.2009, 00:41
create originals, 4 fingers.Thats what she said.


Kizer needs to wise the fuck up and give Brett a pro frame. Actually every company he rides for needs to give him a pro model. No one promotes harder than that dude.

Pulp
18.07.2009, 00:44
create originals, 4 fingers.Thats what she said.


Kizer needs to wise the fuck up and give Brett a pro frame. Actually every company he rides for needs to give him a pro model. No one promotes harder than that dude.
once again, matt moya (that's MATT moya, people) is the wisest person on be-fag.

D_Lovett
18.07.2009, 00:47
What about the older 50/50s? I have those gray Julio frames...

Rotgut
18.07.2009, 01:11
haha so ghey this thread was moved. Nice work mods.

justinthursday
18.07.2009, 02:11
haha so ghey this thread was moved. Nice work mods.
i would have never noticed it if it hadn't been

Adam K
18.07.2009, 03:21
Crazy tall............
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/stygmadoll/IMG_3970-600.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71/rodhills/PICT0342.jpg

NICKG
18.07.2009, 17:23
the 08 valo frames are absolutely perfect for flat. i got the ready to roll set up so they came with 56s and i never stick. however, you do make a good point about 50/50 so get either the cores or valo frames.

justinthursday
18.07.2009, 17:56
the 08 valo frames are absolutely perfect for flat. i got the ready to roll set up so they came with 56s and i never stick. however, you do make a good point about 50/50 so get either the cores or valo frames.
yea ill be trying the valo frames if they make them small enough (230mm-235mm)

brett dasovic
18.07.2009, 23:00
I skate the slimline and the elements flat and they are preeeetty much incredible!! 8) depends on how you like your frames to feel! if you skate a smaller wheel I recommend the slimline, however if you skate a 58 flat then get your hands on some elements and get your blades out and grind some really big stair ledges!

justinthursday
19.07.2009, 01:54
I skate the slimline and the elements flat and they are preeeetty much incredible!! 8) depends on how you like your frames to feel! if you skate a smaller wheel I recommend the slimline, however if you skate a 58 flat then get your hands on some elements and get your blades out and grind some really big stair ledges!
i had elements awhile ago but i wasnt skating flat at the time
they seem like theyd be decent with how thick the frame walls are

zacharias
19.07.2009, 04:32
Valo's

kfc_qbn
27.07.2009, 13:48
Been skating Elements for a week... AMAZING.

I hate Kizer's image, marketing, graphics, and even the way most of their frames look, but MY GOD these frames are sick.