Has anyone seen the "60 Minutes" Obama Interview?

[norILroller]

this movie isnt some attack on obama. its clearly showing how hes a puppet, and has no power at all. just like bush was, do you actually thing bush was making any of his decisions? it also goes over the false 2 party system. obama is just the face for a bunch of decisions made by the same motherfuckers who always run the show. WATCH THIS VIDEO, and draw your own conclusions. pause it where you think its a bunch of bullshit, and google whatever you dont believe and youlll be suprised. WATCH IT AND THEN TALK SHIT, theres some real shit in this movie and i think people need to see it.

[norILroller]

one more thing, obama is the person who carried out the wall street bailout pretty much. he called out all the people who didnt pass it and made some bullshit speech about how they need to "step up for america". and then he gets on the microphone and says its all the bankers faults and he wishes it never happened. this guy is just a good speaker and hes really accomplished NOTHING politically, yet hes held to the same level as martin luther king jr and ghandi. and everyone just eats it all up.

[Bassimastprime]

And you know this because of things you've read on the internet or seen on youtube videos.

Conspiracy theorists are such jokes.

[Krish]

And you know this because of things you've read on the internet or seen on youtube videos.

Conspiracy theorists are such jokes.

conspiracy theorists are part of a conspiracy theory

*truth*

[Bassimastprime]

And you know this because of things you've read on the internet or seen on youtube videos.

Conspiracy theorists are such jokes.

conspiracy theorists are part of a conspiracy theory

*truth*

/-/@><

[Elk]

From the guy that made L00$e Change, we get a whole other bunch of wacky bullshit for faggots to cling to.

[shaneK]

not the first time i heard the shit they talk about in this video

who knows, its not hard to believe. everyone talks about how these videos aren't credible sources, but what actually makes someone a credible source when it comes to this stuff.

[Fetus]

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[jakeordie]

All conspiracy theories are bullshit. I mean, what would anyone have to gain by withholding the truth from people?

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

Obamas really I white dude name bob roberts.

Dude had Negroplasty.

It was all done on a bet by some rich dudes who said that a dude with a muslim name couldnt get elected.

Bob won $1 for that bet and now has to turn the Us back from the tipping point.

[izekiel]

OMG HEZ NOT BLAK WTF!?

i take that guy about as seriously as i take rush limbaugh

[tea kettle]

[milesB]

[manley]

one more thing, obama is the person who carried out the wall street bailout pretty much. he called out all the people who didnt pass it and made some bullshit speech about how they need to "step up for america". and then he gets on the microphone and says its all the bankers faults and he wishes it never happened. this guy is just a good speaker and hes really accomplished NOTHING politically, yet hes held to the same level as martin luther king jr and ghandi. and everyone just eats it all up.

Alex Jones gets off on his own name. Everything he does is a publicity stunt.

The obvious problem with conspiracy theories is that they are so hypothetical that they cannot be argued against because the logic is so vague. If this same method of reasoning was used in science it would be referred to as religion.

For the record, the wall street bailout began in september. That was 4 months before obama became president, and 2 months before he was even elected. if you remember, this was around the time that mccain announced Palin as his running mate and the republicans started to make headway in the polls. these were the same republicans that Alex jones had spent the past 8 years arguing AGAINST. before that he built his career on fighting the clinton administration. specifically janet reno. Alex Jones doesn't care who is in power, either way he will distort information to fuel his own career and further fuel the flames for conspiracy theorists.

[HappyAddict]

I seriously can't wait til aguirre posts in this topic

[jakeordie]

The obvious problem with conspiracy theories is that they are so hypothetical that they cannot be argued against because the logic is so vague. If this same method of reasoning was used in science it would be referred to as religion.

Vague logic.....I'm assuming you've never read the final report of the Warren Commission or the 9/11 Commission report. It is unfortunate that the same agents whom distort the truth discourage the general public from further investigation.....especially in the internet age, where anyone with logic & reasoning skills can discover truth for themselves.

What is commonly called conspiracy theory is putting "official logic" to the test, in much the same way as scientists put theory to the test. The difference is that conspiracy theory cannot obtain absolute values, so people who are compelled to find definitive answers to certain questions are easily frustrated and quickly lose patience with the process. This "answer the questions" personality trait far outnumbers those willing to "question the answers". To better illustrate my point;

I'm thinking of a number between 23 and 42. I have PMed the answer to several Be-maggers (my conspirators), and will Paypal them $1 for each time they reveal the answer in their posts until one of you (the conspiracy theorists) PMs me with the answer. The first correct PM gets whatever's left out of $100 Paypal.

I already know my conspirators are gonna get all the money.

[manley]

[quote="jakeordie"]

I'm thinking of a number between 23 and 42. I have PMed the answer to several Be-maggers (my conspirators), and will Paypal them $1 for each time they reveal the answer in their posts until one of you (the conspiracy theorists) PMs me with the answer. The first correct PM gets whatever's left out of $100 Paypal.

I already know my conspirators are gonna get all the money.

I'm not sure what the point of this is.

I love that your response to me is not to attack my analysis of the obama wall street bail out, but to point out my lack of knowlege of the Warren commission report (Im assuming the warren commission report on JFK) or the report on 9/11. it is true, I have not read them. neither has 98% of the american public. this is a fact that you were no doubt conscious of in your response to me. And again, I will point out the flaw in your logic.

I mentioned that the argument against obama based on the Wall Street bail out was bullshit, and I stated my reasons. your response to me did not acknowledge what I said, but instead referred to a totally unrelated document that would establish yourself as an "expert." What is interesting about this is that you didn't even bother to mention any information from the warren commission or 9/11 reports, or explain problems with them.


Note: after reading this I realized you were referring to two different reports. it was my mistake I apologize and I edited.

[jakeordie]

I read this quote as your opinion on conspiracy theory as a whole, not limited to the content of Alex Jones' documentary;

The obvious problem with conspiracy theories is that they are so hypothetical that they cannot be argued against because the logic is so vague. If this same method of reasoning was used in science it would be referred to as religion.

Since you asked about the Warren Commission, the obvious starting point is the "Magic Bullet" explanation to justify the opinion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin. Remember, the objective here is not to definitively answer who shot JFK. It is to understand the MO of conspiracy, the tricks of the trade, and use this understanding to make more sense of the world today.

[manley]

I read this quote as your opinion on conspiracy theory as a whole, not limited to the content of Alex Jones' documentary;

The obvious problem with conspiracy theories is that they are so hypothetical that they cannot be argued against because the logic is so vague. If this same method of reasoning was used in science it would be referred to as religion.

Since you asked about the Warren Commission, the obvious staring point is the "Magic Bullet" explanation to justify the opinion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin. Remember, the objective here is not to definitively answer who shot JFK. It is to understand the MO of conspiracy, the tricks of the trade, and use this understanding to make more sense of the world today.

What the fuck? The magic bullet theory worked in the late 60's and early 70's before computer analysis could accurately recreate timing, space and body movement. It's not a theory taken seriously by many people any more (with the exception of conspiracy theorists).

Regardless. you are basing your argument on the idea that there was a conspiracy that led to the assassination of JFK and then building on that. I'm not sure that is the best way to tackle this argument.

[jakeordie]

I read this quote as your opinion on conspiracy theory as a whole, not limited to the content of Alex Jones' documentary;

The obvious problem with conspiracy theories is that they are so hypothetical that they cannot be argued against because the logic is so vague. If this same method of reasoning was used in science it would be referred to as religion.

Since you asked about the Warren Commission, the obvious staring point is the "Magic Bullet" explanation to justify the opinion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin. Remember, the objective here is not to definitively answer who shot JFK. It is to understand the MO of conspiracy, the tricks of the trade, and use this understanding to make more sense of the world today.

What the fuck? The magic bullet theory worked in the late 60's and early 70's before computer analysis could accurately recreate timing, space and body movement. It's not a theory taken seriously by many people any more (with the exception of conspiracy theorists).

Regardless. you are basing your argument on the idea that there was a conspiracy that led to the assassination of JFK and then building on that. I'm not sure that is the best way to tackle this argument.

Wow. The Select Committee backed up the Warren Commission's conclusion in '79, and the Assassination Records Review Board made no attempt to contradict this in '98. You must be one of those "answer the questions" types if you honestly believe conspiracy theorists take the magic bullet theory seriously.

Enough of that, I understand what you're saying about the present argument having little connection to JFK's assassination. I DLed the Alex Jones doco for future reference, but I haven't watched it and probably won't. I don't put much faith in his integrity, or Obama's leadership for that matter.