Valo's vs. M12

[mike99mccarthy]

Why would one pay almost double the price for the same skate, but with over 1 pound worth of needless shit attached to it??? and no I don't think valo's look good. plus everybody hates trs, but valos are a direct ripoff of trs..... just a thought

[:(]

souls+backslides+toe cutting possiblities+looking way cooler>>>>>>M12

[Krantz]

I could jump higher in my M12's, but I felt way more secure and confident with hard tricks in my Valo's. I think it's worth the money.

[Alex Coe]

There are certainly advantages to both skates, but I would pick the M12's...although having never skated them it's an educated guess. Valos look arguably better, the soles are certainly better, but roces have the higher cuff which I think is better, I have heard the liners are better and the lack of extra weight is a big plus. I would think that putting valo soles on roces would be a good all-around skate.

[al dolega]

It's not really a cut-and-dry issue because although the looks, souls/backslides, cuffs and having the toecut option are bonuses for Valos, M12's have better liners and they're way cheaper... if you can find them, which is getting harder and harder in decent sizes, so this argument is fast becoming moot anyways.

[Kevin Lubovich]

I've had both and loved M12s way more.