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    Default Why hex screws and not flat head screws?

    Im just wondering why skates use hex screws? I so frequently have hex screws strip on me, but rarely have i stripped a phillips or flat head screw. How are they different? Why were hex screws chosen?

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    Hex if I know.

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    Oh, you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanmatthewdaily View Post
    Hex if I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanmatthewdaily View Post
    Hex if I know.
    that's screwed up


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    Some features of hex keys are:

    * The tool is simple, small and light.
    * The contact surfaces of the screw or bolt are protected from external damage.
    * There are six contact surfaces between bolt and driver.
    * The tool can be used with a headless screw.
    * The screw can be inserted into its hole using the key.
    * Torque is constrained by the length and thickness of the key.
    * Very small bolt heads can be accommodated.
    * The tool can be manufactured very cheaply, so one is often included with products requiring end-user assembly.
    * Either end of the tool can be used to take advantage of reach or torque.

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    Hex if I know? Go to a hardware store, and switch those little bastards out.

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    related note, is there somewhere i can buy hex screws for soul plates that are made out of a high end metal that won't strip as easily at stock screws?
    i'd love to get like 20-30 industrial strenth steel screws to last me forever compared to stock screws which strip on the regs

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    get some better quality allen wrenches and you won't strip the screws so often

    why do flat head screws still exists? those are the worst

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    Rollerblading needs to adopt the torx head screws. It's so much better then hex heads. Even if you use an average grade metal the torx screw is much better then a hex screw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHunt3r View Post
    Rollerblading needs to adopt the torx head screws. It's so much better then hex heads. Even if you use an average grade metal the torx screw is much better then a hex screw.
    the whole point of torx heads are so its harder to steal/rip off/change whatever its holding together.
    hex are like the ghetto version of torx.
    really dont think anyone is going to put your skates up on blocks.

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    Have you ever actually used a flathead screw for anything? They blow.

    Allen/hex is great as long as you don't use old rounded-off and/or incorrect-size wrenches, don't let your shit rust/seize together, don't let your axle heads wear down so far from soul tricks that there's no tool hole left, and don't overtighten your shit like Hercules.

    In other words, don't be a dumbass about it. But we all know how good rollerbladers are at that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadows View Post
    the whole point of torx heads are so its harder to steal/rip off/change whatever its holding together.
    hex are like the ghetto version of torx.
    really dont think anyone is going to put your skates up on blocks.
    I really hope you aren't serious with that post......


    Torx allows you to apply better torque to the screw thread without stripping the head of the screw. Torx is also almost impossible to strip out. So you get a double plus using a torx screw. Less stripping and better locking of the threads...which means less bolts working loose.

    I'm pretty sure factoring in a screw design so someone can't steal your anti-rockers isn't to high on anybodies list. However, using a screw type that allows for better thread locking and less stripping makes much more sense doesn't it?



    And Al is correct as well. Maintain your hardware and you probably won't ever deal with a stripped screw head anyways. Plus there is always E-Z OUT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHunt3r View Post
    I really hope you aren't serious with that post......


    Torx allows you to apply better torque to the screw thread without stripping the head of the screw. Torx is also almost impossible to strip out. So you get a double plus using a torx screw. Less stripping and better locking of the threads...which means less bolts working loose.

    I'm pretty sure factoring in a screw design so someone can't steal your anti-rockers isn't to high on anybodies list. However, using a screw type that allows for better thread locking and less stripping makes much more sense doesn't it?



    And Al is correct as well. Maintain your hardware and you probably won't ever deal with a stripped screw head anyways. Plus there is always E-Z OUT.
    Im not debating mechanics/cam outs?
    electronics, car parts, things people want to keep on the lockdown, warranty products etc etc

    its still the same essential head design as a hex. now put torx on your skates and do sole grinds. which one (hex/torx) is going to be easier to get off when its all fucked up? hex is both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gRANT View Post
    get some better quality allen wrenches and you won't strip the screws so often

    why do flat head screws still exists? those are the worst
    I HATE flat head. they really do just suck balls. driver always flies of the screw


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadows View Post
    Im not debating mechanics/cam outs?
    electronics, car parts, things people want to keep on the lockdown, warranty products etc etc

    its still the same essential head design as a hex. now put torx on your skates and do sole grinds. which one (hex/torx) is going to be easier to get off when its all fucked up? hex is both worlds.
    Yes...I get the point that torx is used because of how well it locks the thread. That's where I'm coming from. Not because someone is going to steal your cuffs or soul plates, but because it eliminates the need to constantly be tightening down like most do with a hex screw. There are also different thread sizes and torque values used in torx screws. What is used/required for stereo equipment and other high end mounting will be different then what is required for skates/frames.

    And with todays frames havimg recessed screw heads...when was the last time you had an issue getting a hex key/wrench into a frame bolt? Maybe back in the day with pre-UFS and the original generation GC frames. But now almost all frame companies, if not every company, uses a recessed area for the heads to be protected. This eliminates the wear of the screw head and also build up of shit that used to happen. Skate companies won't go to a torx head so this whole conversation is pointless.

    Should people use loc-tite on their screws? Yes, but most don't take the time.

    Should people make sure all of their screws are tight before skating? Yes, but most don't take the time.

    Should people replace bolts/screws when they notice they are stripping? Yes, but most don't take the time.

    Do hex head screws strip so easy/often that making a change is worth it? Honestly.....probably not.

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