it is time we choose one clear system of tricknames that everybody agrees on.

[Ivo Vegter]

Hi, I am working on a project.
A site that teaches people about our sport.
- what we do
- how we do it
- why we do it
- where we do it
and most importantly for this conversation:
- how everything is called

The main goal is to give a good introduction of the sport, so that people start and keep on skating.

It is going to be a website that is easy to find if you dont know anything about rollerblading.

There is a big problem with building a site that will set a tone on how people perceive the sport. The problem is that there are different views about how to call our tricks and i feel that it is time we choose one clear system of tricknames that everybody agrees on.

I talked to a lot of people about the trick names and came up with two models. First i will set some boundaries for both models:
- the basic foot positions are well known so we are only going to talk about tricks with a bigger spin in to the grind than a 360
- it should be simple and clear.
- Only the terms alley oop, truespin, inspin and outspin should be used in combination with the degrees, footposition and maybe fakie to make up the final name.

MODEL 1
while skating a ledge:
- a 360 soul would be called inspin or outspin 360 soul (because you land forwards)
- a 540 soul would be called alley oop or truespin 540 soul (because you land fakie)
- a fakie 360 soul would be called fakie alley oop or truespin 360 soul (because you land fakie)
- a fakie 540 soul would be called fakie inspin or outspin 540 soul (because you land forwards)
the model stays the same if you just add 360 degrees to the spin.

MODEL 2
while skating a ledge:
- a 360 soul would be called alley oop or truespin 360 soul (because you ride forward in the runup)
- a 540 soul would be called alley oop or truespin 540 soul (because you ride forward in the runup)
- a fakie 360 soul would be called fakie inspin or outspin 360 soul (because you ride fakie in the runup)
- a fakie 540 soul would be called fakie inspin or outspin 540 soul (because you ride fakie in the runup)
the model stays the same if you just add 360 degrees to the spin.

I would like to know which model you prefer

if you have something to add to the conversation, then I would appreciate it if you could back your argument up with for instance an old daily bread or vhs section where the trick names are mentioned.

[Le Irlandais]

1

[*ROYALwithCHEESE*]

1 million pages

[mikeee!]

OH BOY

[fast eddie]

The only thing I have to add is that pornstar should be changed to deathstar.

Not only does it sound cooler, but when younger kids are competing at an event and the announcer yells out pornstar, it makes parents uncomfortable. Might as well be yelling out "Dildo! Truspin dildo on the 4 ft. quarter!"

[anton_mr]

alley oop unity or savannah?

100 pages

[austin from texas]

sooooo many flaws in your "models" already

if you follow through with this all you're going to do is confuse idiots even more

good job making the world worse than it already is

its a good idea in theory, i for one learned all the trick names from a website

but really the only thing to explain are the foot positions for basic grinds, nicknames for grinds (cloudy night, sunny day, savannah, pornstar, topside variations, etc.) and CORRECTLY distinguish spinning which direction in relation to the obstacle is called what (truespin, alley oop, illusion, inspin outspin)

[Dubjeeber]

I'm not being negative for the sake of it, and I respect what you are trying to do... But I doubt we'll ever have a standardised system... So many regional differences and so much confusion, even with simpler stuff than you are trying to define (b/s ao unity vs savannah for eg)...

Honestly, if you are going ahead with this website you should pick one system yourself and just go with it...

Most of the people I've skated with (myself included) end up just making up terms amongst ourselves anyway...

(Right foot soul>clock japan 540... Anti-clock 360>left soul>right fish>clock liu-kang 180,(eg) makes most sense to me, though I know for a fact most rollers would hate that system)

Good luck with it though!!

[Shadows]

if he was from the US this wouldnt have been stickied.

[Shadows]

farfegnugen or fart fig newtons?

[Muppet4Eternity]

Be thankful that most people agree on most trick names, that's as good as it's going to get, sorry.

I learnt all the trick names of Toxboe.net but I just call grinds what people round here call them.

[al dolega]

Will post when I get home, maybe.

[adam samurai | PHC]

maybe

[Pulp]

PARTY AT MY HOUSE, BRAH!

[Monday]

if he was from the US this wouldnt have been stickied.

Problem?

[klebanironcross]

Will post when I get home, maybe.

This needs to happen.

[rnc]

dat fahrvergnügen!

[CovertOps]

huh? What's wrong with the current system?

[Alex Coe]

Will post when I get home, maybe.

Oh lawd here comes the DB system again!

I vouch for creating the names with whatever system you desire. There's never going to be a 100% agreed upon term, but if you create a good system people will use it and it might become favored. As for asking for help, it's a good idea but I hope you can filter the good ideas from the bad ones.

One criticism of your method is this: your spin modifiers don't serve a purpose. being a 360 spin it's already known that you land the same way you were going. There's no reason to change the spin names because of landing forward or fakie. You simply need two terms to describe the direction of spin, not four. The hard part is deciding what you'll describe the spin in relation to. If it's in relation to a ledge, then what if you're skating a rail straight on? Also, for boot slides you don't need a spin modifier if you use the degrees and frontside/backside because there's only one way you could do it, although two if you count the switch way.

[Luke_]

just don't spin