carbon 1 help, need some opinions

[themoller]

So I wear size 6.5 in shoes and have been skating my xsjados at the size 4.5 setting for the last few months. I liked where my foot was over the h block when i had them set at size 4.5 .
Now I have carbons in size 6(they fit big) and the frame/soulplate feels too far forward compared to what i have gotten used to.

So; is there some magic mathematical formula that explains the location of the h block under your foot to keep you perfectly balanced which skate manufactures use to set up their skates? Or is it semi random where the h block is. Like, am I messing up by trying to skate with the h block and backside groove farther back? Would it be better for me to get used to where it is set or should I drill my carbons to have the plate/frame set farther back?

If Im not messing up by putting the plates/frames farther back, does anyone have any useful tips for trying to do this?
What would be a good way to set up the skates so that i get the holes for the ufs screws in the right position? And is there any special type of drill bit that I should use for the skates seeing as theyre carbon fiber/fiber glass?
Also, what would be the best way to access the UFS nut inside the skate without trashing the inner liner completely?

so this isnt just a wall of text(I hate post without pictures)




check out where the heel is on the xsjados compared to the carbons




thanks for your help

[jeppo]

dont think ther is much can be dun ...if you skate xsjado better keep skating them

[justinthursday]

I got you on this one. Take off your frames and souls. Strip off the piece of foam rubber covering the base of the boot. Drill out the two rivets holding in your frame bolt receptors. Now, take out your laces and insoles. Cut slits above where the receptors are. From the outside, push the receptors though and take them completely out. Drill new holes where you need them. Use a very sharp bit. Preferably a FORSTNER bit. Google it or go get one from a hardware store.

Another thing to consider is replacing the liners if the boots are really that big on you.
You could use a thicker liner for a tighter fit. I will be doing a tutorial on this if you're interested.

[fast eddie]

I got you on this one. Take off your frames and souls. Strip off the piece of foam rubber covering the base of the boot. Drill out the two rivets holding in your frame bolt receptors. Now, take out your laces and insoles. Cut slits above where the receptors are. From the outside, push the receptors though and take them completely out. Drill new holes where you need them. Use a very sharp bit. Preferably a FORSTNER bit. Google it or go get one from a hardware store.

Another thing to consider is replacing the liners if the boots are really that big on you.
You could use a thicker liner for a tighter fit. I will be doing a tutorial on this if you're interested.

Damn, can't he just elongate the frame bolt holes in the soul plates, and slide the boots forward or backward as needed?

[justinthursday]

Damn, can't he just elongate the frame bolt holes in the soul plates, and slide the boots forward or backward as needed?

Well, sure. But you can run into problems like hitting your middle wheels with the frame bolts.
But I guess he's skating anti...

New tut:
Take a 1/4 forstner drill bit and make the frame bolt holes in your soul plates longer.
You may also need to do this a little bit to you frames. This could weaken then so be careful.
Flatten the UFS nubs on your soul plates and use washer to fill the gaps.
You probably won't be able to move them as much as it sounds like you want to but this would technically be easier.

[fast eddie]

Well, sure. But you can run into problems like hitting your middle wheels with the frame bolts.
But I guess he's skating anti...

How can that possibly happen from modifying the soul plate? The frame bolts can't move.

I keep thinking about how my K2s have elongated openings in the footbed, so i can slide the frame bolt receptors around where I need them. I'm probably going to get frustrated if/when I have to go back to modern skates.

[themoller]

so you guys both agree that I should mod them and not conform to their USD system?

I think drilling the shell will make most sense so I can replace the soulplate and frame without having to go through the whole process again.

do you guys have any ideas on how to line them up as similar to my xsjados as possible?


thanks for your help guys

[justinthursday]

Just make it feel right. Can't say how to make them feel like Xsjados.

[gRANT]

I would try to get used to it before modifying the skate. The placement of the backslide on your xsjados set at 4.5 is further from the norm than the backslide placement on the USDs.

[a_pla5tic_bag]

So you like the carbon 1's though. I don't seem to recall my backslide plate being in that same spot, mine were a 7.

the other thing i was thinking was if you want to move the backslide plate, just get bigger soles, position accordingly, drill some holes, then reshape the loose ends.

[themoller]

im thinking it would be a good idea to have slots milled so i can adjust them to my liking(instead of just drilling them), to bad I dont have access to a mill, and I dont know how well the carbon/fiber glass would mill.

[justinthursday]

You don't want to mill it. The carbon is tough. If you have any loose ends you can just go get some fiberglass epoxy and hardener to reset the strays.

[psyfron]

fuck...

if its that much of an issue, just skate the god damn xsjados!

otherwise
1. skate better
2. get used to them
3. ???
4. profit!