i see all the news but have no idea why the army tanks are destroying civilian areas??
explain..??
Yo Syria why you mad?
i see all the news but have no idea why the army tanks are destroying civilian areas??
explain..??
Sand in their butt cracks man.
I know that feel.
Something about this Arab uprising.
Inb4 conspiracy theorists
R.I.P. Ashford box.
This article was pretty informative http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/i...ria/index.html
BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH Dis nigga posted an article from the NY times and called it informative!! PFFFFHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I do enjoy reading be-mag political posts. Critical thinking is at a bare minimum here. However, Xenophobia and zealotry without due diligence run rampant. It's a fine flip side to the same coin. Hell - you could even apply the same labels to how ya'll debate anything within rollerblading!
Please, do continue gentleman... Don't forget - ignorance isn't only bliss for the ignorant. It's fun for others to watch too!
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ugh, Arab Uprising was a terrible idea.
It is Arab Spring or Islamic Awakening.
I think it has something to do with Jay-Z's baby
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I'd rather call it an Arab Fall, and an Islamic Awakening in this context is a contradictio in terminis.
This pretty much says it all:http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/syria/index.html
Remember: "It is better to keep your [hands still] and appear stupid than to [respond] and remove all doubt."
what quark says.
The amount of death it will cause has me placing bets. All these videos are somewhat interesting though. The video camera truely is amazing. Never before has the world had such easy access to murder on film. Seen so much crazy shit in the last year. Totally changing my perspective on the value of human life.
ok....
so...
from what i gather... the people are tired of being under the thumb, the ruler is a cock, russia (besides sulking about what happened in lybia) and china are protecting their commy brothers....
BUT the people were not prepared for what their insolent cries for reform would bring raining down from the heavens...
sum it up?
eh dont care
would be sick to go to a protest like that and just dose everybody. FREE WATER.
hahaha
They are sick of one family running their country and I guess want Syria to be more westernised and less visits at night by Ryrian police to take them away and torture them.
That said they have gone this far and judgiy uprisings that have occurred in Kuwait and in Libya....if they stop the government will wait till the world gets bored of this ,hunt each person down and kill them on mass.
Ghaddffi killed a few thousand by sending forces intoa prison and killing everyone who was classed as an enemy of the state.
Russia and china make cash from arms sales to libya. The same way the US makes cash selling weapons to Isreal.
The US being angry at Russia over arms sales is a bit hypocritical.
The Syrian army needs more arms to carry weapons ans scratch themselves in two places at once.
Who's sick of families running shit? Saudi Arabia is one of the most harshest Islamic countries supported by western nations in the entire middle east. How come you haven't heard any of of this "Islamic spring" "Uprising" or whatever retarded Nazi style repetitive slogan beating to deliver a vague message happening over there?
Here's a nice blonde british journalist explaining that everything you're hearing is bullshit.
It's about money. The saudis bend over backward. There is no freedom or democracy in the middle east, and no western nation will bring it there. They never have, and they never will.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a9_1314127625 - Nations who decide to change away from the dollar get invaded. Real info right there - not this bullshit shock value headlines you see on TV. "ohhh they're oppressing the people!! Babies are dying!!!". How come people aren't outraged that the USA kills civilians ALMOST EVERY DAY?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/19/ iraq - We don't know how many civilians we really kill, because the military doesn't care. It's a lot more than you "see" in Syria.
http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-...kirt-sanctions - Iran has recently started trading their oil in gold - Not US dollars. Nobody cares they if have nukes - PAKISTAN HAS NUKES. It's about bending over backwards for the dollar.
Speaking of the this Free Syria Army which you all have done so much homework on. They're 40-50k strong. Syria has 22 million people. That's .02% of the population fucking shit up. That's not a rebellion. That's the size of a small private army. Anyone could be funding these jackasses to go cause trouble in urban areas.
How come you don't hear about CIA/Mossad/Mi6 on the news? Because this is what they do - They support deviants in countries to go and start terrorizing shit so the media has some good sound/video clips and headlines.
http://www.jpost.com/International/A...aspx?id=257168 - Israel was just called out by the US government for supporting terrorists in Iran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair - This is not the first time the Israeli government has done this. They are THE BEST at doing this - even if it's to provoke Americans into action.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'etat - America invades Iran after they threw out the dictator we installed there, to siphon out their oil for pennies while fucking over their people. Have any of you even been to Iran? The ironic part is that large swaths of the Iranian people actually love Americans, AND Jews. Iran has one of the largest Jewish populations in the middle east. If they really wanted to wipe Jews off the planet as the media portrays in regards to this Iran nuke stuff, why don't they start on their home court?
Western nations PUT dictators in middle eastern countries to keep them ass backwards, so that they'll never need their own resources. So Quark loves to bitch about the Qur'an loving idiots while at the same time his own country is complicit in keeping them ignorant. It's easier to point fingers at other people though. To point a finger at yourself you would have to like... bend an elbow... Very difficult. There's plenty more examples - history is filled with this nonsense.
Pakistan has all kinds of nuclear weapons - they have one of the harshest sharia law enforced societies in the world. We supported a MILITARY DICTATOR, who took over the country a coup, for almost a decade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf
The bullshit is endless, and you all think you can sum up over 100 years of fucking over middle eastern countries for money - in one news article? There are many more elements. Obviously weapons smuggling is big money too. Like when we sell weapons to Israel so they can protect themselves, and they end up in a port in Finland headed to China?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12...ina-by-israel/
We go through crazy loops to protect our secrets from those copycat cookie cutter governments that would love to see the USA fall to pieces. How come missiles we sent to Israel were found in finland marked as "fireworks" headed to China? Were they sold? What the hell happened! How has china been able to build all these cool new jet airplanes recently?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ts-Israel.html - I really feel bad for the Jews that have to live under the ridiculousness of the Israeli government. People protest there ALL THE TIME. When is the last time you heard a country protest because the price of cottage cheese was too high? Israelis started this whole occupy movement stuff going on in the USA. They're the leading example. The difference is that when the IDF comes in to keep the peace they actually give a shit about the people protesting, because everyone has been involved in the military there. There's compassion for their own peoples sake.
You don't see the IDF forces doing this to their own people. Maybe Muslims, but not their own people. The military there are the citizens.
How come you never hear of their dissatisfaction with the government? It seems like only Arab nations want their leaders thrown out, when it's politically and economically convenient for western nations. The Jews deserve much better government than what they have. It's actually really interesting to read about how fractured relations are within that country. I thought it was bad here in America.
I'm not even going to get started on the UN. It's ever more complex that I can portray, and it's not like I know everything. This is only the information that's open and can be aggregated from actually going back and looking through different sources.
Fuck me though - what do I know. I don't have a single article from the NY times that encapsulates a superficial view of a limited perspective. Fine fine... forget everything I just said - let me join in on the enlightened circle jerk.
Fuk dem Muslams!! We don't Like diktaters run by FAMALIES! (mind you we had two presidents recently who were son and father, and the wife of another recent president is head of state and managing all the current foreign relations) but fukk dat shiiiit. It all dem muslams fault!! stupid sand munkeys!! They have no ideas what be going on- we haz to saves them with freedoms!!
I'm not saying these countries aren't doing bad things. A lot of times though - they're fighting back foreign influence. The outcome that you all think you're supporting is not the outcome that will occur (Take a look at Iraq... we invaded because of "weapons of mass destruction" and ethnic pogroms committed by Saddam. no? Guess what's going on with their new government? They would love to have nukes and ethnic violence is off the charts (http://csis.org/publication/iraq-and- challenge-continuing-violence), and when they see people with foreign uniforms contributing to the chaos it doesn't endear them to us at all. It contributes to them wanting to fight us.
Hey... At least we have private militaries (Those things that stay in the countries when our army pulls out) in Iraq protecting key infrastructure to get us that sweet sweet oil. Don't be fooled when Obama makes a big deal about removing troops from a country. That's just the cheap labor. It's the private contractors that make the real money. They're just passing off the country from the visible fist of force to the invisible fist of force. Private war companies don't have to reveal shit to the public.
Look at the first paragraph in that article you all seem to think has all the answers:
"The wave of Arab unrest that started with the Tunisian revolution reached Syria in mid-March 2011, when residents of a small southern city took to the streets to protest the torture of students who had put up anti-government graffiti. The government responded with heavy-handed force, and demonstrations quickly spread across much of the country."
Oh so this uprising is about a government torturing its own people for graffiti?
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/8 515-court-advances-us-torture-victims-case- against-donald-rumsfeld - How come you all aren't flipping a shit about two US Military whistle blowers BEING TORTURED FOR 97 DAYS for calling out our government selling weapons to Iraqi rebels for MONEY AND ALCOHOL. YEAH - PEOPLE PROTECTING YOUR FREEDOM are tortured because they see fucked up shit going on, and they try to do something about it.
This is all good for western governments though. The more those people hate us - the more they can persuade their own populations (You morons) to be complicit in the acts committed over there. Two wrongs don't make a right, and combating evil with evil will not bring any peace to the world. Its just multiplies the chaos.
Obviously this is a rant that tries to cover a broad stroke of issues. Why am I bringing up stuff like History... Israel... Iraq... Iran... into a discussion about Syria? Because it's all connected. You all seem to think this is some sort of isolated incident, or that the other recent uprisings are isolated incidents, when in fact they are all proxy incidents connected to greater plans that the publics aren't aware of until these issues are "resolved". I'm not going to grammar/spell check this. You all don't deserve it. I've provided i'm guessing like 10 links with tons of information that combat the notion in your one link.
Can't believe I have to spend my day off correcting people who have access to the worlds information at their fingertips.
Here's the tl;dr version
Ya'll dumb.
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y u mad bro?
Aggressive speech is more effective sometimes. It's not always what you say - it's how you say it.
Just delivering the message based on audience. I doubt the average be-mag user could read through a wall street journal styled 5 page editorial. Give it a Cracked.com style twist with billeted points, and it's easier for them to digest.
How's Japan doing BTW? I hear there's some serious Greek style austerity measures headed down the pipeline. yikes!
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