Flat setup, wide groove

**van Sinn** · 25.03.2012, 12:23

As far as I can tell, Kizer Elements have the widest groove with the wheel sets packed quite close.
The Fluids also looks to have a wide groove.

I'm currently on a semi-rocked setup with two 59mm M1's and two 56/57mm random wheels on FLT-2 frames.
For a flat setup, I'd prefer using those wheel sizes, which the Elements frame will take.

Any other frames I should consider?

Yes, I know a setup with rockers will be better, which is why I'll want the wide groove.
I'm having a major time adjusting to a two-wheel setup, because I also ride freeskates..
I could make the transition later when being more rehearsed.

**domi** · 25.03.2012, 14:04

the slimline groove in kinda the same as the wide element groove. also, they are lot better frames in general

**MorganHiver** · 25.03.2012, 14:53

Go with Create Originals. The new Slimlines look pretty decent BUT they aren't available yet. No release date either.

**justinthursday** · 25.03.2012, 17:48

Get Create Originals. Best flat frame right now.

***ROYALwithCHEESE*** · 26.03.2012, 04:31

best ever.....GC HiLo's....

Still on my set....so much room and so much speed.

I would say GC F1 Xs's for a wide and flat groove in 2012.

**MorganHiver** · 26.03.2012, 13:33

The h-block in the GC's don't look like they protect the wheel much.

**van Sinn** · 26.03.2012, 14:46

Likewise looks to me the F1 XS doesn't have that much space from block to wheels.

But it looks like the CO 2012 have even slightly wider space than earlier models, so I'll probably go for those.

Just noticed the Kizer Zurawiecki: http://www.locoskates.com/product_info.php?products_id=157 which are claimed to have wider space then before.
Dunno.. will likely still be the CO's, unless someone says...

Thanks for comments

**van Sinn** · 26.03.2012, 14:48

Oh damn, forgot..
Will the OC 2012's take 4x 57mm or maybe 57,59,59,57? ('cause that's what I'm using now)

**van Sinn** · 26.03.2012, 14:51

Ahh, that got answered in the "How do you skate your OC's" thread..

**klebanironcross** · 26.03.2012, 15:42

I skate 59mm flat in CO's. fuck a huge undefined h-block.

**MorganHiver** · 26.03.2012, 17:42

You're back to skating CO from Kaltik, klebanironcross?

**klebanironcross** · 26.03.2012, 18:19

Yeah, I switched back a couple of months ago after the better part of a year on Kaltik. CO's just slide so much better.

**MorganHiver** · 26.03.2012, 21:58

CO are the best sliding frames I've ever used. I used to really like the RB switch frames when I rode anti for 3 months, but I think CO slide much faster. Perhaps it's due to the fact that I feel much more comfortable skating flat.

**Alex Coe** · 26.03.2012, 23:24

CO's suck. They are the same as every other anti-rocker inspired frame on the market, but they break more. Get Slimlines or Kaltiks.

**rollerblazed** · 27.03.2012, 20:31

throwing my 2 cents in for CO, favorite frame i've skated flat next to salomon ufs frames

**Monday** · 28.03.2012, 01:14

**MattyNairn** · 28.03.2012, 16:37

I've just started skating the GC F1 XS frames with 54's flat, and I prefer them to the CO's; the groove and split are slightly bigger, hence why you can only fit 56's in the GC's. But there isn't much difference, i think that the CO's are a bit taller than the GC's, and I prefer a shallower frame.