Blasphemy

[Dre]

Man, my fucking eyes must be playing tricks on me

I respect Julio for the role he has played in the blading industry but it seems like he has a heightened sense of self importance. His skating these days is polished but it's by no means noteworthy. I always feel awkward after I see one of his edits and have to scroll through dozens of comments complimenting how rad the skating was when it was clearly average.

Heightened sense of self importance? Who has done more than him, or rather, who is more important in the blading game?

Wagner(slowly trimming ties with blading)? Arlo(no more ties with blading)? Name someone.

Dont forget that he is thirty five. Show me another blader that is thirty five ripping it that hard. Name someone that is 30, ripping that hard. What was his first section? Hoax 2, san jose section? Who else in that video still owns a pair of blades.

If you dont like that his skating is "average" yet gets compliments, i hope you hate every sean santamaria section on here that gets nothing but props. Without being a hater, i can name some edits posted on here recently by be maggers that got mad props, and didnt even feature a fucking handrail.

Anyway I think it was sort of a "meh" edit to use as an introduction to a completely unexciting product line.

Word. You didnt even buy regardless. You think this FREE edit was "meh", but when something dope comes out, you aint fucks with it. Talking bout haffey is tired.

Sorry, I grew up skating with Julio in the bay area. I have 100% love for him and much respect which is why I rock Valo, and Youth frames. But his skating hasn't progressed since 2003... He has style, swag, and skates super fucking clean, but its not progressing in any way.

The fact that he is MAINTAINING a high level of skating at his age, is noteworthy enough. There are plenty of people progressing this shit.



Yall two sound like some suckas.

[NathanC]

oooo someone is mad yah

[Dre]

haha i was gonna put a camron foto in too.

[Shadows]

is be-mag a course in California schools?

[Dre]

naw blood we just booze out here

[Alex Coe]

His Valo 4 prof was definitely a step forward with his skating. Also, yes the guy is amazing. Why are you just now getting offended by the dummies?

[Nick Tary]

Dremotional

[Dre]

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[Alexisnotonfire]

Dont forget that he is thirty five. Show me another blader that is thirty five ripping it that hard. Name someone that is 30, ripping that hard. What was his first section? Hoax 2, san jose section? Who else in that video still owns a pair of blades.

Now I'm feeling old.


Well, what about Chris Haffey or Richie Eisler?

[MorganHiver]

who is more important in the blading game?

Dunno, I didn't download Blading.

[Pulp]

Great thread.

[Apsley Cherry-Garrard]

Heightened sense of self importance? Who has done more than him...who is more important

skating+business: Brian Shima is on the same level of importance/contribution as far as starting companies by taking an old product and putting his name/skin on it. also, he's better at rollerblading and always has been.
business: dude who owns The Conference is a far more vital part of the blade industry than Julio. sorry bruv.
influence/business: AJ

Name someone that is 30, ripping that hard.

first, he's not ripping hard. he does 3 tricks on a variety of sick obstacles.
second, Richie Eisler.

If you dont like that his skating is "average" yet gets compliments, i hope you hate every sean santamaria section on here that gets nothing but props. Without being a hater, i can name some edits posted on here recently by be maggers that got mad props, and didnt even feature a fucking handrail.

you just admitted that his skating is average. thank you.
the fact that be-mag loves to compliment sub-par skating is nothing new, and not everyone here does it. you aren't the only one that gets pissed off by people jocking bad skating.

The fact that he is MAINTAINING a high level of skating at his age, is noteworthy enough.

he isn't maintaining a "high level" of skating whatsoever. you said it yourself - he's average (at best).

he does not deserve a pro boot or frame. he needs to make the transition to businessman and stop GIVING HIMSELF (see: heightened self-importance) pro model products.

[Espen]

[ift]

he isn't maintaining a "high level" of skating whatsoever. you said it yourself - he's average (at best).

You're nuts. The man outspin topsoul and outspin fishes 25 stair ledges. The dude is burly. Skating with him in person is so impressive he's solid as a boulder.

[Apsley Cherry-Garrard]

You're nuts. The man outspin topsoul and outspin fishes 25 stair ledges. The dude is burly. Skating with him in person is so impressive he's solid as a boulder.

like i said - he does 3 tricks on a variety of sick obstacles.

i really hope his V section proves me wrong. his Valo4Life section was sick. not a lot of variety, but sick. not worthy of pro products next to haffey & farmer, or broskow, bailey, and bsmith, but sick.

[Dre]

he isn't maintaining a "high level" of skating whatsoever. you said it yourself - he's average (at best).

If you noticed, i had quoted the word average. i dont believe he is average whatsoever. And come on blood, you cant be joking with the whole at best shit. You must be pissed off like a motherfucker than that sagona just got a new pro skate. fool hasnt made a section in how long?

BUT if the argument is "naw man sagona's got that steeze", which im not sure YOU would make, but i know there are people here that will, then julio hella deserves pro whatever.

skating+business: Brian Shima is on the same level of importance/contribution as far as starting companies by taking an old product and putting his name/skin on it.

Was this a joke?See how many SSM's sold since January. Compare that to how many Valo's sold this month. I aint knocking the hustle at all, but shima is not really at that level yet.

Also, i forgot shima ran the IMYTA
Also, i forgot shima put on the blade cup
Also, i forgot shima is was involved in the creation of a rollerblading videogame
Also, i forgot shima is creating an app for smart phones involving blading
Also, i forgot shima produced some of the best selling blading videos and threw top notch premiers

Not a dig at the dude at all, but i guess i can almost see your point?????? No.

also, he's better at rollerblading and always has been.

Nice. Show me a section of shima from 95

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEic5...feature=relmfu

business: dude who owns The Conference is a far more vital part of the blade industry than Julio. sorry bruv.

You bring up the conference. They fucking fired billy oneill. While they might be innovating and making products constantly, they aint really doing it like that. Really doing a nice job at supporting the scene man. Look man, i know personally one of their "sponsored riders" has the most beat up skates out of our crew. Dude is constantly dropping sections, in videos and online, yet they wont even send him some gear even tho he is on the team? Come on blood#2

While you bring up the conference, lets not forget sunshine, and im just gonna leave it at that.

influence/business: AJ

ummmmm really? please elaborate. i dont follow how AJ fits the equation.

first, he's not ripping hard. he does 3 tricks on a variety of sick obstacles.

First off, lets exaggerate a little harder. Secondly, so you have to be able to do hella tricks to rip hard? So i assume shima doesnt rip. i guess BJ doesnt rip. Rachard DEFINITELY never ripped. in his last video section, julio fished some of the burlier spots i prolly would be scared to royal or soul. i suppose since it was not switch and he didnt spin both ways, it wasnt ripping. Comeone blood#3

second, Richie Eisler.

I honestly dont know how old he is.

you just admitted that his skating is average. thank you.
the fact that be-mag loves to compliment sub-par skating is nothing new, and not everyone here does it. you aren't the only one that gets pissed off by people jocking bad skating.

I dont think his skating is average man. I do think plenty of people get props for subpar skating however, julio NOT being one of them since i dont believe his skating is sub par

he does not deserve a pro boot or frame. he needs to make the transition to businessman and stop GIVING HIMSELF (see: heightened self-importance) pro model products.

Why should he stop giving him self shit? His name is synonymous with blading, and SELLS. See: Businessman.

Plus, he doesnt think he is important. Most of the blading world KNOWS he is important. Very different.

Ask your favorite pro's what they think about julio. You live in socal, shouldnt be that hard

[Apsley Cherry-Garrard]

I'll try to address the things you brought up.

1. you are right, i DON'T think that Sagona deserves to get a new pro skate. i'm sure i'll be hated on hard for that, but it's just how i feel.

the reason i brought up Shima, the conference owner, and AJ are:
2.1 RE: Shima - I bring up Shima because he has been heavily involved/co-owned companies that produced wheels/frames/skates - just like Jon Julio. Also, just like Julio, he started by taking an already existing product and making minor modifications to it and slapping his name on it. Tom Hyser has done more for innovation than Julio and Shima combined. And don't bring up the sales statistics of Valo vs SSM - that isn't a fair comparison at all. SSM is still VERY young (remember how badly valos sucked and how painfully uncomfortable they were when they started?) and was mired in controversy from the start, while Valo is going into its 8th(?) year.
While Julio was the one running IMYTA and such, who was winning them? Shima. Yeah, Julio has skated for a longer, but that doesn't mean he's better at blading at all. longevity and skill aren't the same thing.
Video games, huh... Aggressive Inline is all i gotta say. Most people in America never even got to play Rolling.

2.2 you know who has produced some of the best selling videos and thrown top notch premieres? AJ. he's also had a wheel company and a clothing company that rocks some of the best skaters in the game. What AJ and his friends do are steering rollerblading in certain directions (whether you think its a good or bad direction is up to you). but since 2000, AJ and his videos have had an incredible impact on blading, and continue to do so.

2.3 if Valo fell out of the game, 2 companies would go under - Valo and Youth. if The Conference leaves the game we lose USD, Xsjado, UC, Kizer and a LOT more bladers lose whatever piddly paycheck they get. On an industry level, the Conference is much more important to us than Julio.

come on blood #3: comparing Shima's trick vocab to Julios is atrocious - you can't be serious. Julio ONLY does soul/topsoul and makio/fish. his trick vocab is much more comparable to BJs. Rachard ripped it in FOR2 and hasn't ripped since, but still has more tricks than Julio.

4. He shouldn't give himself pro products because he doesn't skate at a pro level. doing your 3 butter tricks over and over doesn't put you on a pro level, no matter how many stairs the ledge goes down.
people know that Julio runs Valo/Youth - that is all the synonymous association you need. he doesn't need his name on the products that could go to a much, much, MUCH better rollerblader.

[mindgametwo]

Julio is the Man! Period.

[!!!]

im with acg on this. no hate to julio because he is an amazing skater and even better businessman, but other than his first few years when rolling was new, he was never within top 10.

[Dre]

-Disclaimer-
my thoughts are a little jumbled on this one



Yo, you said

"What AJ and his friends do are steering rollerblading in certain directions (whether you think its a good or bad direction is up to you). but since 2000, AJ and his videos have had an incredible impact on blading, and continue to do so. "


The exact same thing can be said about julio.

Julio has been pushing blading in the direction he see's fit for quite a while.

I love AJ's videos, ever since i seen acension, but lets not downplay Julio's work either. whether its the dyna videos, or the last two valo videos, he's done shit that no one has done before. Paying for the music rights of your video?

At lets get real about the "ehhh he only does 3 tricks"

He only does soul topsoul????? go rewatch some sections man, you gotta be kidding me.

and yes i am comparing shimas vocab to jons. backside. back royal. top soul, an occasional true mizou. lets not forget the soul topsoul variations either. doesnt seem that much different than what you claim jons to be huh. And so you think rachard never ripped it after for 2? Dogg, you must have the highest fucking standards for rollerblading in the world.

It is also a little difficult to discuss who should be considered a pro with you as well, since you dont consider half of the professional bladers to even be considered pro. Continuing to use valo for the example, Who should be pro? Just Bkow? Bailey typically does the same tricks. Ichy only skates on one foot. Victor is mexican, so on and so forth.


Im kinda of track, but, The reason i bring up video games is because jon has always been using HIS influence to push blading to the outside eyes. Yea rolling was a flop, but fuck it if it wasnt a good attempt. 4 Life is on itunes. Blading the ifone game. IMYTA and blading cup, how come no one else has been able to do shit like this? Again, nothing but love for AJ, but you mentioned he makes some of the best videos, has the best teams, does this does that, but what influence does he really have?

Ball, you like the basketball references, so lets use this one. Jordan doesnt even play any more, YET every year, a new signature shoe comes out with his name on it. what gives. should he give it up?