Do you follow this?
As in if someone's opinion is dumb as fuck you should have to respect it?
I do not get it when I'm asked to respect someones opinion when its either stupidly racist, homophobic, plain fucking wrong or dumb as fuck.
Respecting people's right to have an opinion?
Do you follow this?
As in if someone's opinion is dumb as fuck you should have to respect it?
I do not get it when I'm asked to respect someones opinion when its either stupidly racist, homophobic, plain fucking wrong or dumb as fuck.
Originally Posted by tonyrivituso
Just because everybody is entitled to an opinion does not mean you have to listen to them.
Walk away
Your reality is realised by your perception. The things you know, along with the things you don’t know, will inevitably influence your view of the world. Generally speaking, life experience widens perspective because it opens the mind to different ways of thinking. Knowledge broadens awareness. And awareness is the foundation of perspective. Limited knowledge will restrain your view. Again, you will see things as you understand them to be, however limited that understanding is. The more you know, the more you understand. However, as you learn more you also begin to question more. You realize that there is so much you don’t know.
The fact that you find it hard to respect another persons perspective, shows a lack of initiative to learn, or the ability to show empathy towards your fellow man. Making your statements towards racist/homophobic people ironic.
Respecting another persons opinion is about respecting yourself, accepting that you are still learning, and showing the ability to grow as a person.
Well spoken and reflected with all the fundemental points in psychology. Kudos, good sir!
I won't bother with redundancy or reflection, this fine individual has covered all points. That's all.
This is how I feel now...
freedom is like farts, just because you like the smell of yours does not mean others do.
EDIT: I know others don't like mine, and I don't care. FUCK YOU!
Last edited by wujcik; 21.08.2012 at 07:59.
Disaster over the wall to back roy. Shirt + Pants = $11.50 US new.
in this situation tell the idiot that they are an idiot and that they have to respect you for saying that because its your opinion.
This is fine.
This is dumb.The fact that you find it hard to respect another persons perspective, shows a lack of initiative to learn, or the ability to show empathy towards your fellow man. Making your statements towards racist/homophobic people ironic.
This is even dumber.Respecting another persons opinion is about respecting yourself, accepting that you are still learning, and showing the ability to grow as a person.
All opinions are not equal and this truth-is-in-the-middle-ism is complete bullshit. You can wax philosophical all you want, but it doesn't change the reality of the harm of certain opinions like the examples given. Respecting people is different from respecting their opinions and being empathetic is different from truly understanding their opinions.
If you think being intolerant of intolerance is ironic, then you have the reasoning ability of a child. It's superficial at best and unexamined at worst.
Saying that people have a right to an opinion is practically a tautology that people only interpret as being one way...and generally by those that have the worst ones.
Last edited by will.m; 21.08.2012 at 09:29.
Respecting another's right to have an opinion is different from respecting their right to incessantly vocalize or attempt to mandate it.
Read up on epistemology (the academic study of knowledge) and then tell me what you think the qualities for knowledge are, and how they are different than the qualities of opinions. If you're like me you'll feel that knowledge doesn't exist except as some kind of ideal that we're always trying to attain, and that it's inseparable from opinion. When someone (perhaps Will.m) contests that there is truth, knowledge, and that whole package, I simply ask them to prove it!
There's a lot to say on such a complicated issue but it's interesting to see people squirm around thinking about it. One of the reasons problems like this never get solved is because there isn't an answer or objective truth about the matter. That being said, you can respect that someone has an opinion and still disagree with it and take measures to prevent them from harming people (including themselves) with it.
Remember: "It is better to keep your [hands still] and appear stupid than to [respond] and remove all doubt."
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People form opinions in areas that they have no expertise/idea about. Just seem like you respect their dumbass opinion and your life will be better.
yay for being slightly autistic. go team me. fuck urry buddy else! in all seriousness i have a hard time respecting peoples opinions alot of the time but i am polite enough to keep my mouth shut 90% of the time. i figure if someone elses opions are rarely going to sway mine then why would the inverse be true?
Yeah that's nice. Now tell us what epistemology says about racism or homophobia or any other bigotry.
Last edited by will.m; 21.08.2012 at 14:44.
never talk politics in a bar.
Is this really a thread on the opinions of opinions?
That's just like your opinion man.
It says that people have all sorts of reasons for being racist, homophobic, and bigots, but that all of these reasons are just as groundless as the reasons people have to the contrary.
Remember: "It is better to keep your [hands still] and appear stupid than to [respond] and remove all doubt."
So it's a tautology? Racists and anti-racists are no better than one another because their politics are both based on equal levels of provable/falsifiable bullshit, thus all positions are valid/invalid? What does epistemology say about what we should do about it's effects and how it affects people then? Become existentialists?
Hyperbole aside, using an epistemological framework is fine, but you can't use it to answer questions it's not really designed to in regards to the way you're using it. Theory is fine, but your praxis is shit.
Epistemology is the study of knowledge, which entails the study of justification and truth. Here are some examples of how that's relevant:
People often conflate opinions and facts, like when a racist thinks it's a fact that black people are inferior to white people. People often try to justify their opinions with facts. People think they know a truth about something and often struggle to make other people see this truth too.
I'm sure I don't need to be any more direct to point out how the study of knowledge is foundational to many issues (if not all!), even if it's just convinces you that there isn't an objective truth out there to base your knowledge on. I think that if more people sincerely studied it there would be much less bull-headedness out there, which would have a profound impact on the world, and the internet. Hence, I'm doing my job: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology
I hope it doesn't have the impact of turing everyone into existentialists. Rather, it should be humbling to Descartes your way into un-knowing.
Remember: "It is better to keep your [hands still] and appear stupid than to [respond] and remove all doubt."
Everybody has opinions: I have them, you have them. And we are all told from the moment we open our eyes, that everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. Well, that’s horsepuckey, of course. We are not entitled to our opinions; we are entitled to our informed opinions. Without research, without background, without understanding, it’s nothing. It’s just bibble-babble. It’s like a fart in a wind tunnel, folks. - Harlan Ellison
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