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    Originally posted by *ROYALwithCHEESE* View Post
    Same sport, different league.

    Rigging it so someone who shouldn't , wins the chance to run is no way akin to colluding with a foreign government , getting, giving and laundering money for a foreign government, and completely changing foreign policy to aid a hostile foreign government and your own business interests.

    #whataboutism

    Just because Hillary is a scumbag , doesn't excuse this. I'd be happy to see her charged for the sanders thing if she broke laws or party rules.

    Inb4 dolphin Hannity pulls off some mental gymnastics that would win gold in Moscow
    You're right, but my problem isn't with exposing the illegal and subversive behaviors of the republican party. My problem is with the US election system at large. So when you blame the republicans for ruining democracy in the US, it calls for a healthy dose of whataboutism because the entire election system and everyone involved is an affront to democracy, and these problems won't go away if we continue to side with one group against another. It's also not fair to pin all the democrat election rigging on Hillary. She's just one person among many who did this, so the problem is much much bigger than one scumbag geriatric.

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      Originally posted by NickL View Post
      You're right, but my problem isn't with exposing the illegal and subversive behaviors of the republican party. My problem is with the US election system at large. So when you blame the republicans for ruining democracy in the US, it calls for a healthy dose of whataboutism because the entire election system and everyone involved is an affront to democracy, and these problems won't go away if we continue to side with one group against another. It's also not fair to pin all the democrat election rigging on Hillary. She's just one person among many who did this, so the problem is much much bigger than one scumbag geriatric.
      You have a patient with cancer slowly bleeding out from a gunshot wound.
      What do you treat first?
      The blood spraying out their neck or do you grab some buckets and wheel them down to the chemo ward, as you try not to make a mess on your way.


      If Hillary won a majority republican house would expose any of her wrongdoings (Saudi donations). With a trump government and a republican house , at best , has a concerned john McCainn.
      Last edited by *ROYALwithCHEESE*; 15.07.2017, 19:02.

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        Originally posted by NickL View Post
        Like the DNC being rigged to eliminate Sanders from the running and colluding with CNN to fix the debates? I agree with your condemnation of the republican party, but the democrats are just as bad. This entire election was such an obvious insult to democracy.
        No they aren't. The DNC primary is not a government election. I am a huge Sanders supporter, but the truth is all the shady shit the DNC did to him was perfectly legal. They screwed Sanders, but that is still not on the same level as colluding with a foreign government to sway an actual election.

        The Trump team, and possibly Ryan and McConnel worked to undermine the American system with the help of Russia. There is no whataboutism. It is unparalleled and any republican who still supports these people values party over country. For all your claims of superior patriotism, how does the right not see this as treason?
        Last edited by Metric F. Tonne; 15.07.2017, 21:15.
        Yours truly,

        Metric F. Tonne

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          Originally posted by Metric F. Tonne View Post
          For all your claims of superior patriotism, how does the right not see this as treason?
          I'm not republican, nor do I support the Republican Party. Never have. I'm not right wing either. What the republicans seem to have done here with Russia is definitely illegal but it's not treason. Treason can only be committed when you cullude with an enemy in wartime or overthrow the government by violence. That's the constitutional interpretation. I see why it feels treasonous, but it's not.
          Last edited by NickL; 15.07.2017, 21:38.

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              Fact-the trump/russia collusion theory that has been absolute magic for the ratings off CNN and has been proven to be no more than a theory.

              Let's be real here, the CIA/NSA (you know the folks who categorically know everything about you including your preference in porn) would know if there was actual collusion. CNN executives have been recording referring to Russia as a "nothing burger", and they have been doing it for "ratings". These claims of money laundering, making concessions for a hostile foreign power are pure and simple are absolute bullshit and there is no proof to back these claims up. There has been no easing of sanctions against Russia and the US and Russia are still supporting opposing sides of Syria.

              I know it's cool and popular to hate trump, It's hip and punk, the mainstream is blasting a message of hating the president so all the cool kids are getting behind it. But truth of the matter is it doesn't matter what some Australian (who wishes he were American) communist thinks, none of what you see on the tube matters, maybe Canadian and Australian opinions will matter after the US annexes them (to save them from themselves).

              Truth is many great Americans wake up everyday and thank god that this billionaire playboy is sacrificing the remaining years of his life to work his ass off, be hated by everyone and make Make America great.

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                Originally posted by *ROYALwithCHEESE* View Post

                Inb4 dolphin Hannity pulls off some mental gymnastics that would win gold in Moscow

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                  Originally posted by R-MONEY$$$ View Post
                  Fact-the trump/russia collusion theory that has been absolute magic for the ratings off CNN and has been proven to be no more than a theory.

                  Let's be real here, the CIA/NSA (you know the folks who categorically know everything about you including your preference in porn) would know if there was actual collusion. CNN executives have been recording referring to Russia as a "nothing burger", and they have been doing it for "ratings". These claims of money laundering, making concessions for a hostile foreign power are pure and simple are absolute bullshit and there is no proof to back these claims up. There has been no easing of sanctions against Russia and the US and Russia are still supporting opposing sides of Syria.

                  I know it's cool and popular to hate trump, It's hip and punk, the mainstream is blasting a message of hating the president so all the cool kids are getting behind it. But truth of the matter is it doesn't matter what some Australian (who wishes he were American) communist thinks, none of what you see on the tube matters, maybe Canadian and Australian opinions will matter after the US annexes them (to save them from themselves).

                  Truth is many great Americans wake up everyday and thank god that this billionaire playboy is sacrificing the remaining years of his life to work his ass off, be hated by everyone and make Make America great.

                  It belongs in the National Inquirer.
                  This board is DEAD.

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                      Originally posted by nai View Post
                      It belongs in the National Inquirer.
                      IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM

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                        Treason is during wartime , collusion is what's on offer and punishment is prison.

                        Or you could use Donald's own ideas for what he thought the punishment for Snowden should be (as he himself and his son and son in law did deals with the same government Snowden escaped to) and that would be the death penalty for colluding with a foreign government.

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                          current news ... lol

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                              Originally posted by *ROYALwithCHEESE* View Post

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